My understanding is that gender is how you think of yourself. If you consider yourself to be a man, then regardless of what society says, you’re a man. They can’t simply assign you the gender of woman. The terms AMAB and AFAB are referring to your sex, not your gender.
Trans is not just about your body, but also about how everyone and the society percieve you (that’s why you have multiple type of coming out).
So if someone was born male, and thinks of themselves as female, but they haven’t told anyone, would you say that they’re cisgender because the gender society perceives them as matches their birth sex?
It’s not whatever the society say : trans only have sense if you have a gendered society. That’s what “social construct” means, this is also why it don’t apply to all cultures.
A fluid identity might not be “trans” in a society when there is no question of gender, but you won’t call that being “genderfluid”, as having a “locked” gender may seems weird to them. Maybe they won’t even have a word for it. But it’s still won’t be cis, either.
And elven culture here is binary gendered, hence the changes Corellon do.
but you won’t call that being “genderfluid”, as having a “locked” gender may seems weird to them.
And I would say that someone who has always been female and happens to have a male body as having a “locked” gender. I just use “cis” to mean that your gender matches your sex. Not anything about whether or not your gender is fixed.
Well, this doesn’t really matter for the discussion since Corellon doesn’t really have a body with sexual characteristics.
I’m just a trans girl, so I can’t speak with authority, but it seems “genderfluid” is in the same bucket as “non-binary”; in that, both are part of the umbrella term “transgender”, but people can resonate with either and not apply the transgender label to themselves.
At the end of the day, labels are boxes that don’t always encompass human experience.
I’d also add “perisex” and “unchanged” to your use of the term “male body”. Around 1.5% of the world’s population has some sort of intersex variation, meaning they have a combination of sexual characteristics that don’t fit into the typical norms for their assigned sex at birth (you may have seen these people referred to as “hermaphrodites”, but the intersex community considers this a highly offensive term due to its use in dehumanisation).
My understanding is that gender is how you think of yourself. If you consider yourself to be a man, then regardless of what society says, you’re a man. They can’t simply assign you the gender of woman. The terms AMAB and AFAB are referring to your sex, not your gender.
So if someone was born male, and thinks of themselves as female, but they haven’t told anyone, would you say that they’re cisgender because the gender society perceives them as matches their birth sex?
It’s not whatever the society say : trans only have sense if you have a gendered society. That’s what “social construct” means, this is also why it don’t apply to all cultures.
A fluid identity might not be “trans” in a society when there is no question of gender, but you won’t call that being “genderfluid”, as having a “locked” gender may seems weird to them. Maybe they won’t even have a word for it. But it’s still won’t be cis, either.
And elven culture here is binary gendered, hence the changes Corellon do.
And I would say that someone who has always been female and happens to have a male body as having a “locked” gender. I just use “cis” to mean that your gender matches your sex. Not anything about whether or not your gender is fixed.
Well, this doesn’t really matter for the discussion since Corellon doesn’t really have a body with sexual characteristics.
I’m just a trans girl, so I can’t speak with authority, but it seems “genderfluid” is in the same bucket as “non-binary”; in that, both are part of the umbrella term “transgender”, but people can resonate with either and not apply the transgender label to themselves.
At the end of the day, labels are boxes that don’t always encompass human experience.
I’d also add “perisex” and “unchanged” to your use of the term “male body”. Around 1.5% of the world’s population has some sort of intersex variation, meaning they have a combination of sexual characteristics that don’t fit into the typical norms for their assigned sex at birth (you may have seen these people referred to as “hermaphrodites”, but the intersex community considers this a highly offensive term due to its use in dehumanisation).
Sex and gender are entirely decoupled.
They are unrelated.
Disconnected.
Not at all related.
Different.
Not the same.
Irrelevant.
Not even part of the discussion.
Non sequitur.
A la carte.
Separate.
Apples and oranges.
Cars and colors.