Good. If they want security, hire security. No store clerk should be expected to intervene.
Most they should be responsible for is keeping them self safe and and calling a manager/police once its safe for them to do.
I worked multiple customer facing roles when I was younger. This is the procedure for all of them, in fact it is usually a firable offense to try to stop someone with a weapon or threatened you. It is easy to defend stolen product to an insurance company. If you try to stop someone robbing a store and are injured or killed do to a policy the store had or a manager told you, the insurance isn’t going to pay anything. Someone stealing “$30,000” worth of merchandise (which insurance pays you back for) and then being on cameras and not being able to use a lot of it without getting caught is much more preferable than having to pay hundreds of thousands in medical bills or millions in gross negligence if someone dies.
This is actually the legal requirement in my country. Even security is just a deterrent and aren’t legally responsible for actually intercepting physically.
I feel you, but on the flip side I couldn’t give less of a shit about the lost profits giant corporations complain about from theft. Although they do inflate theft numbers to justify increases in price so we lose there too.
We need to break up like every major retailer and go back to locals.
Also, jailbreaking stolen tech to sale is more trouble than it’s worth. Doubt the smash and dash thefts aren’t the ones calling the shots but most modern tech is little better than strapping a GPS to yourself.
As somebody that picked up an old iPad from a thrift store where owner had not removed their account, factory refreshing it is a hard if not an impossible task.
Even the sketchy tools weren’t great, you could boot it to a state of new user use, but a power off and back on you are locked out again.
And they don’t give you enough of the previous users email to be able to track them down and say “Hey, either I found your stolen iPad, do you want it back, or can you remove your device from your apple ID”
If Brett Johnson is right, they totally are using sketchy tools from online. Unless they gained access via rogue Apple repair license.
I would assume NSA types have better tools with help from Apple, but the device is quite well locked down to the piblic. I say that as a guy that installed Linux on my Wii, and hacked my home smart plugs and lights so I don’t have to use the manufacturers shitty telemetry apps.
Good. If they want security, hire security. No store clerk should be expected to intervene. Most they should be responsible for is keeping them self safe and and calling a manager/police once its safe for them to do.
I worked multiple customer facing roles when I was younger. This is the procedure for all of them, in fact it is usually a firable offense to try to stop someone with a weapon or threatened you. It is easy to defend stolen product to an insurance company. If you try to stop someone robbing a store and are injured or killed do to a policy the store had or a manager told you, the insurance isn’t going to pay anything. Someone stealing “$30,000” worth of merchandise (which insurance pays you back for) and then being on cameras and not being able to use a lot of it without getting caught is much more preferable than having to pay hundreds of thousands in medical bills or millions in gross negligence if someone dies.
Security ain’t doin shit. “Observe and Report” isnt just a catchy saying, it is literally all corp Security is supposed to do.
This is actually the legal requirement in my country. Even security is just a deterrent and aren’t legally responsible for actually intercepting physically.
I kind of get why, but I’m so tired of our culture of everyone knowing this so shoplifters know they can get away with almost no consequences.
It puts the onus on the store so now a bunch of local grocery stores have these plexiglass walls and things which are definitely not safe in a fire.
And you know the cops are t showing up in a halfway timely manner for petty shoplifting and the serious ones will just run.
I feel you, but on the flip side I couldn’t give less of a shit about the lost profits giant corporations complain about from theft. Although they do inflate theft numbers to justify increases in price so we lose there too.
We need to break up like every major retailer and go back to locals.
I just hate being Ike chattel.
…which is why I’m glad I’m not expected to die for my employer.
Also, jailbreaking stolen tech to sale is more trouble than it’s worth. Doubt the smash and dash thefts aren’t the ones calling the shots but most modern tech is little better than strapping a GPS to yourself.
As somebody that picked up an old iPad from a thrift store where owner had not removed their account, factory refreshing it is a hard if not an impossible task.
Even the sketchy tools weren’t great, you could boot it to a state of new user use, but a power off and back on you are locked out again.
And they don’t give you enough of the previous users email to be able to track them down and say “Hey, either I found your stolen iPad, do you want it back, or can you remove your device from your apple ID”
To be fair I don’t think the actual organizations doing this type of crime for a living are using sketchy tools they found online.
If Brett Johnson is right, they totally are using sketchy tools from online. Unless they gained access via rogue Apple repair license.
I would assume NSA types have better tools with help from Apple, but the device is quite well locked down to the piblic. I say that as a guy that installed Linux on my Wii, and hacked my home smart plugs and lights so I don’t have to use the manufacturers shitty telemetry apps.
Brett Johnson 39 felonies for cybercrime https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/128/