Wait, what confusion? I use Voyager and I have no confusion about who is whom. I can see in the lower reply box that you are balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one.
The only issue with pronouns is that people who assume default maleness should be locked up anyway, so that’s an entirely separate issue.
Yeah…but then what should i do? Many people have as a mother tongue a language that is gendered (the case for many langs in europe and south america since they come from latin) and usually male is used as standard when you don’t know the interlocutor gender or is used to describe a group that has 2 or more genders.
Saying something like
People who assume default maleness should be locked up anyway
Is just wrong because you are just blaming innocent people for doing something they have been doing all their lives for reasons beyond their control.
That is exactly what buttnugget is trying to say in his words, at least how I interpret them. I just thought you were not knowing male default.
Other than that, I think we can and should try getting languages more and more to genderless state, but I think forcing it is not the way. (German in my case).
What people often forget, is that languages are always in change and adapting; always have and always will be.
I do my part on adapting language around me by preferring genderless while I talk and write; you get used to it pretty fast. And when you hear children talking, you recognise that they are on it too. Just don’t blame others for still using default male, I agree on that, as this only generates unnecessary conflict and hardening of sites.
Society should always stay fluid, in my opinion, or else we get to a fascist society pretty fast.
Context is important and voyager does not provide that. Many people respond to the wrong person in threads. For example you just replied to me about pronouns which isn’t my topic.
Tbf, I don’t read unames, and my app shows the pronouns in line with and the same color as the unames, so I don’t read those either.
Literally no clue who I’m even responding to right now. Doesn’t really matter who it is either, my response would be the same regardless of your race/gender/whatever else.
The one exception is whenever I see something profoundly stupid I will sometimes check the uname and go “ah yes cowbee again how predictable” but that’s just pure entertainment and learning who here not to waste energy on, most comments are just comments and don’t warrant that level of self preservation.
Hey, just so you’re aware I’m reading this in Voyager and it does not display your pronouns like the web UI does.
It shows almost nothing and definitely leads to confusion about who is talking to who :(
Wait, what confusion? I use Voyager and I have no confusion about who is whom. I can see in the lower reply box that you are balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one.
The only issue with pronouns is that people who assume default maleness should be locked up anyway, so that’s an entirely separate issue.
Huh? What the heck did i just read?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_as_norm
Yeah…but then what should i do? Many people have as a mother tongue a language that is gendered (the case for many langs in europe and south america since they come from latin) and usually male is used as standard when you don’t know the interlocutor gender or is used to describe a group that has 2 or more genders.
Saying something like
Is just wrong because you are just blaming innocent people for doing something they have been doing all their lives for reasons beyond their control.
That is exactly what buttnugget is trying to say in his words, at least how I interpret them. I just thought you were not knowing male default.
Other than that, I think we can and should try getting languages more and more to genderless state, but I think forcing it is not the way. (German in my case).
What people often forget, is that languages are always in change and adapting; always have and always will be.
I do my part on adapting language around me by preferring genderless while I talk and write; you get used to it pretty fast. And when you hear children talking, you recognise that they are on it too. Just don’t blame others for still using default male, I agree on that, as this only generates unnecessary conflict and hardening of sites.
Society should always stay fluid, in my opinion, or else we get to a fascist society pretty fast.
Context is important and voyager does not provide that. Many people respond to the wrong person in threads. For example you just replied to me about pronouns which isn’t my topic.
Tbf, I don’t read unames, and my app shows the pronouns in line with and the same color as the unames, so I don’t read those either.
Literally no clue who I’m even responding to right now. Doesn’t really matter who it is either, my response would be the same regardless of your race/gender/whatever else.
The one exception is whenever I see something profoundly stupid I will sometimes check the uname and go “ah yes cowbee again how predictable” but that’s just pure entertainment and learning who here not to waste energy on, most comments are just comments and don’t warrant that level of self preservation.
@Cowbee@lemmy.ml out here getting smoked on the regular 😅🤣