Look at the lines of Military families having to stand in line to receive food. Federal workers and the military aren’t getting paid because of the MAGA shutdown which happened because Republicans are afraid the Epstein files will get released.

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  • tornavish@lemmy.cafe
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    I don’t understand… Who cares about the military? They will shoot you down if given the order. Those sweet innocent starving people will literally murder you in the street if they’re told to.

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      Propaganda’s a hell of a drug. I’ve been there, and it takes a lot of introspection to break free of it, but that’s something that can absolutely happen in the middle of a military contract - especially if you’re spurred awake by your own president taking food off your table. I’ve got a lot less faith in the military’s ability to say no to illegal orders after seeing troops sent to invade US cities; but even if they’ve chosen a misguided as fuck career path from some sense of patriotism, that doesn’t put all of them in full stormtrooper territory.

      This isn’t an “oh no, the poor troops!” situation, its a “the man giving you orders is an enemy of the US, and now his attacks on our nation are effecting YOU.” situation.

      If this is what it takes to slap some sense into them, I’d say don’t waste the opportunity on dehumanizing them: that line of people all swore an oath to defend the constitution from all threats foreign and domestic. We’re literally paying them to defend us from people like Trump - this might just be the push that one of them needs to act on that oath.

      The military has a ton of potential to do what’s right, despite them having thus far chosen to do what’s easy. I’d encourage any active duty reading this to carefully consider your oath and the forces currently at play against our country, from both inside and out.

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        Threat is subjective, that’s the problem. Some people don’t see the s threat. Some people, the bloodthirsty, boot licking kind who signed up for the military most definitely do not see any kind of problem.

        This is never going to be one of those situations where people in the military band together and save the country from evil. This isn’t a movie. Those people will literally mow down their neighbor without batting an eye if they can get a few extra slices of bread. Every last person who has ever touched the military service is the bottom of humanity.

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          It sounds like the only military personnel you’ve seen are in movies. The vast majority are not bloodthirsty. Most aren’t even bootlickers. They’re doing it because it’s a good opportunity to get out of a shitty spot.

          You need to just shut the fuck up. You don’t know anything and you’re just making things worse. If you want to win whatever comes next (election, war, etc.) then you need allies. A lot of those allies will be military personnel. If you can’t deal with that then you aren’t a useful ally. Alienating people based on some stupid idiology you hold that you have tested is the dumbest thing I’ve seen.

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            Oh please. The military always fall in line. They won’t risk their lives or their pension by stepping out of line.

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              They don’t though. If they did then no one ever would have been court martialed.

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                Can you name a time in US history when the military as a whole rose up against the Federal Government?

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                  No. And there’s also never been a large reason to. Military coups normally don’t happen multiple times in the same nation, but to imply they can only happen if it’s happened before would be to say they never happen, which is obviously wrong.

                  There have been many cases of service members standing up though. You’re saying they’re all bad, but that would be ignoring those people.

                  The fact of the matter is you’re ignorant, but you’re also weaponizing your ignorance to hate people that you don’t understand. That’s called bigotry. I don’t handle bigots well.