It is such a shame that in our society his (presumably consensual) gay affair is bigger news than his participation in rape and trafficking of children/teens.
I couldn’t give two shits about him blowing another man, that shouldn’t even be an issue (past the fact that is was probably cheating, which no one seems to even mention) and it is sad and infuriating that this might endup be what pushes away his hardcore supporters and not the FUCKING PEDO SEX RING
I think everyone is also missing the very real possibility that this might not have been an adult male. I don’t think we should presume it was consensual, in part because I don’t think we can presume the individual was old enough to consent.
you both make good points. sometimes the most verbal damage you can do to an individual involves using their twisted logic against them. whenever you mock someone, there’s collateral damage and that ought to be considered. i’d hope the folk i know and care about understand when we’re mocking someone/-thing along reasoning that we ourselves don’t follow.
since there’s inherent anonymity on the best parts of the internet (like here), that last bit of understanding is a lot harder to reach.
On the one hand I agree, but on the other hand there is a problem, especially when you consider children (but not only) that they moss the nuance. I recall as a child using homophobic slurs because I did not understand how bad they were. For me they were just curse words and it took me a while to grow as a person to understand the context behind those slurs. And the thing is that nobody in my life is especially homophobic, they just don’t understand why using those kinds of words is problematic, and they never bothered to teach me. I myself am not straight, and when I came out, nobody had a problem with it, and everybody was very accepting. But it just goes to show that even people who are accepting of it are not necessarily understanding the nuance of using a slur, and therefore I personally believe that you just shouldn’t use insults that are homophobic, racist or otherwise bigoted in nature.
It is such a shame that in our society his (presumably consensual) gay affair is bigger news than his participation in rape and trafficking of children/teens.
I couldn’t give two shits about him blowing another man, that shouldn’t even be an issue (past the fact that is was probably cheating, which no one seems to even mention) and it is sad and infuriating that this might endup be what pushes away his hardcore supporters and not the FUCKING PEDO SEX RING
I think everyone is also missing the very real possibility that this might not have been an adult male. I don’t think we should presume it was consensual, in part because I don’t think we can presume the individual was old enough to consent.
You’re right, but when mocking someone you mock them with what bothers them, not you.
I don’t think that’s true. Sometimes mocking them means mocking others as well. I don’t think homophobic insults are okay, even towards homophobes.
I don’t see why calling him a pedophilic cheater that looks like the cheato at the bottom of the bag is not good enough?
Also Trump is so stupid and immature that just calling him stupid and immature is triggering for him (ie “I HAVE THE BEST IQ, THE BEST MRI” etc)
you both make good points. sometimes the most verbal damage you can do to an individual involves using their twisted logic against them. whenever you mock someone, there’s collateral damage and that ought to be considered. i’d hope the folk i know and care about understand when we’re mocking someone/-thing along reasoning that we ourselves don’t follow.
since there’s inherent anonymity on the best parts of the internet (like here), that last bit of understanding is a lot harder to reach.
On the one hand I agree, but on the other hand there is a problem, especially when you consider children (but not only) that they moss the nuance. I recall as a child using homophobic slurs because I did not understand how bad they were. For me they were just curse words and it took me a while to grow as a person to understand the context behind those slurs. And the thing is that nobody in my life is especially homophobic, they just don’t understand why using those kinds of words is problematic, and they never bothered to teach me. I myself am not straight, and when I came out, nobody had a problem with it, and everybody was very accepting. But it just goes to show that even people who are accepting of it are not necessarily understanding the nuance of using a slur, and therefore I personally believe that you just shouldn’t use insults that are homophobic, racist or otherwise bigoted in nature.
the reason it’s that way is that his participation in trafficking is not news, whereas his status as hilary’s eskimo sister is.