• dandelion (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 hours ago

    to be blunt, I don’t believe you

    if you call someone a cocksucker, it’s obviously intended as an insult

    telling me actually you think sucking cock is totally fine and it’s actually just about the hypocrisy of the cocksucker is not believable - that’s not why these memes succeed, people are just enjoying labeling Donald Trump as a cocksucker in a pejorative way

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      2 hours ago

      As a person who has sucked a cock or two, I appreciate your instinct to protect, but maybe this is an “I’m not comfortable making this joke, but they are allowed to” situation?

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        7 minutes ago

        hm, I hear you - but I think that would have to be embedded in the context of the meme; it’s not like anyone knows you are a “cocksucker” (in a non-pejorative sense), let alone that you endorse sucking cock from the memes you share; the homophobic assumption that sucking cock is wrong and taboo is what makes the meme successful, and I don’t think anything changes from the fact that you don’t personally share that view and happen to be creating or sharing the meme

        basically the homophobia is in the audience that interprets and receives the meme, the meme succeeds because it plays on that homophobia, and so the meme is “homophobic” in that sense

        I have trouble imagining these memes being shared and being popular in the gay communities that I’m a part for that reason - the audience might find the implication that sucking cock is itself wrong as homophobic and uncomfortable, maybe a gay audience would recognize the hypocrisy and also understand the latent homophobia that makes the meme work, but I just don’t imagine it being as popular (and to be honest I’m not seeing it shared in those communities; nor would I personally feel comfortable sharing it in those communities)

        it should be clarified that when I point out the homophobia, it’s not meant as some attempt to cancel the memes (let alone to indicate we should protect Trump out of some kind of concern for him as a homosexual), instead I’m just trying to point out reactionary threads, the way misogyny and homophobia are common even in anti-Trump sentiment

        fuck Trump, obviously - but I’m not going to follow that up with “the cocksucker”