• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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      i decided this for myself a couples years ago (except it was windows 7 for me).

      fast forward a decade later and here i am typing this on a laptop that came with windows 11. lol

      the only way i escaped this until now as being able to afford the hefty price tags on linux-only hardware with something like system76 and i can’t afford it anymore since i no longer earn a software engineer’s salary.

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        19 hours ago

        Can you install wondows 11 ltsc on it? That’s one way to escape copilot crap for a few years while new AI stuff gets pushed on pro versions and below every month.

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          up until now, i thought that windows home was the lowest level trim i could get.

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        the only way i escaped this until now as being able to afford the hefty price tags on linux-only hardware with something like system76 and i can’t afford it anymore since i no longer earn a software engineer’s salary.

        Why not a second-hand ThinkPad/Latitude/ProBook? They’re cheap and cheerful and well-supported by most distros.

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          I’ve done that in the past and it’s taught me that I have bad luck w second hand personal electronics.

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        fast forward a decade later and here i am typing this on a laptop that came with windows 11. lol

        Why can’t you downgrade to W10?

        Anyways, I’ve buttoned up this install of Windows, blocked all known telemetry points of access with an extensive block list in the .host file as well as others, and a litany of other modifications. I make images of my setup so that, if the wheels fall off, I can always spin up an image and be back in business without having to reinvent the wheel.

        I do use Linux and Mac in my network as well. However, I have one piece of software I use for my private business, and I have never been able to find a exact opensource/Linux equivalent. In fact I don’t think there is anything out there that does what it does. So, W10 is it for me.

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          Why can’t you downgrade to W10?

          i didn’t know i could do that. is it possible with a windows oem license that came with the laptop?

          this is the first windows machine i’ve had since 2012 and i’ve only used linux or mac since then so i’m not so well versed in the windows eco-system anymore.

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              12 hours ago

              looks like it only works if you upgraded from win10.

              this laptop came w win11 by default.

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                If you really want to go to Windows 10 might be able to do it with Windows 10 ltsc. Activate it with MAS and should be good seeing as you don’t need to be logged into a Microsoft account for it to keep getting security updates unlike what is being offered to Windows 10 Pro and below that needs a Microsoft account to be logged in to first be able to extend support and to stay logged in.