cross-posted from: https://discuss.online/post/30840627

Genuine question, so please don’t be mean to whoever responds. Better to learn than to judge.

Curious if people who are on Cloudflare are considering any selfhosted alternatives? If not, interested to hear what is a deal breaker in regards to using a service besides Cloudflare. I do hear a lot of praise for Cloudflare when facing DDOS, and always happy to learn more!

  • aichan@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    6·
    2 days ago

    Never used it nor never will, I want my infra to be as independant as possible, and also fuck internet centralisation and fuck corpos

    • thejml@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      So I’ve done public DNS zone hosting and you can use let’s encrypt for certs and such, but

      • What about caches? I basically use to reduce load and network traffic reduction before it gets to me so I don’t have to run my own varnish cache and get regional caching to reduce repeat cross country calls for people on the other coasts.
      • What do you use for DDOS protection?

      Basically, cloudflare is free, and i get all that. If I find another place better, I’m open to jumping ship.

    • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      Not trying to get into a pissing contest, or twist your arm into anything…however, honest question: What do you consider your ISP? Centralized or no? I mean, there are only around 10 to 15 major Tier-1 backbone ISPs that I know of, everyone else contracts with them. There are about 12–14 true Tier-1 backbone providers that form the core of the global Internet, and a few dozen additional very large backbone networks (Tier 2) that also carry massive amounts of international internet traffic.

      • aichan@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        22 hours ago

        Yes, and in fact I am collaborating in a neighborhood project for the implementation of a local ISP. Obviously you are right, with the way the internet is built it is inevitable to depend on some centralized systems out of reach, I cannot lay a submarible cable xD. But other than in cases of absolute need, where there is really no alternative, I want an internet more like it was before I was born, just people communicating using local infra, not Internet Monsantos

        • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          18 hours ago

          I want an internet more like it was before I was born

          I’m 71, so I was virtually there when they flipped the switch, and I was, to say the least, addicted. I’ve had a lifelong romance with technology. Yes, it was much simpler then, not a whole lot going on really. A few BBS, ASCII porn, then Geocities…lol what was that? However, I look at what we have now, and what we had then, and personally think the things I liked about the olden days are far outweighed by what we have in 2025.

          The reason I asked is because it just seemed like such an absolutist thing to say. I’ve rarely found life to be that absolute. Life is a series of concessions and amalgamations of compromise. Unless you’re willing to go live in an isolated cabin in the woods, devoid of any technology, I don’t see how you can avoid those concessions and compromises. One has their core values and beliefs yes, yet one must be flexible lest life snaps you off at the knees.

          Congratulations of the local ISP collaboration. I’ve read some on the topic and that is way more capital than I have, and far too many aggravations than I would want to take on. Wish you the best with your endeavors.