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minus-squarefizzle@quokk.aulinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·6 个月前I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. An ecosystem contains many species at equilibrium, but the ecosystem itself consumes all available resources. Similarly, companies within a capitalist system maintain a kind of equilibrium, but the system itself will consume all available resources.
minus-squarenaught101@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·6 个月前The problem is the concept of externalities, which means that capitalism will happily overshoot our sustainable resource base, and then collapse. It’s the Minsky Moment at ecological scales.
minus-squarekent_eh@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·edit-26 个月前 An ecosystem contains many species at equilibrium, but the ecosystem itself consumes all available resources. But that equilibrium can be maintained by those resources being replenished within the ecosystem through the actions of components of that ecosystem. In our example, that’s not happening. The resources are being exploited and not replaced.
minus-squarefizzle@quokk.aulinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·6 个月前That’s true, but it doesn’t respond to the point I was making. The comment I replied to was comparing an entire system to a single component within a system.
minus-squarefizzle@quokk.aulinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·6 个月前This seems obvious to me. By definition, an ecosystem includes all inputs.
I don’t think that’s a fair comparison.
An ecosystem contains many species at equilibrium, but the ecosystem itself consumes all available resources.
Similarly, companies within a capitalist system maintain a kind of equilibrium, but the system itself will consume all available resources.
The problem is the concept of externalities, which means that capitalism will happily overshoot our sustainable resource base, and then collapse. It’s the Minsky Moment at ecological scales.
But that equilibrium can be maintained by those resources being replenished within the ecosystem through the actions of components of that ecosystem.
In our example, that’s not happening. The resources are being exploited and not replaced.
That’s true, but it doesn’t respond to the point I was making.
The comment I replied to was comparing an entire system to a single component within a system.
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This seems obvious to me. By definition, an ecosystem includes all inputs.
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