The drama and accusations the GrapheneOS developers are spewing and engaging in are giving me a bad taste in the mouth and make me doubt the OS’s reliability am I the only one?

  • azuth@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    I don’t need a phone, GrapheneOS needs one now that Google is trying to force them out. I wonder if their new phone will actually meet all the requirements, if it comes out.

    As for complaining, GrapheneOS is the one bitching about other Android versions existing since forever. Now, they 've started making unsubstantiated claims of them attacking them somehow.

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      4 hours ago

      I think if it does not meet the requierments then they wont support new phones at all, but who knows

      GrapheneOs is calling them out for their lack of security. Like this one: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private

      i think this is a good thing, users should be aware of it. And they should fix it.

      I wish someone would find flaws in grapheneOs, and complain so thex can fix it too. Instead of complaining about the personality of one of the directors.

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        4 hours ago

        No GrapheneOS is not just calling them out on lack of security.

        It’s apparently from their discord, so it took me a while to find it again.

        It’s not about the personality of it’s directors, it’s about it’s effect on the (alternative) Android ecosystem as a whole, which is not just about security but also privacy and user control.

        Even with regards to security, their choice of limiting devices apparently makes their users targets for extra scrutiny and harassment. That does have actual implications for people whose threat model includes authorities unless they already are guaranteed to be targets.

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          3 hours ago

          thank you, i think i saw that somwhere before. is it really true that the haressment is made up? like i honestly dont know

          and does it really has an impact on the eco system? i never really thought abou it…

          but i think it is also for privacy top. user control not tho

          And i guess fair point that this is a security flaw considering the phone users beeing targeted… But like i still kinda think hardware backed security is important and also very crucial is, that the more devices they supporty the less recourses they have… I think considering how long it is since pixel 10 released and it is still not supported, would make me guess that they dont have like any free time really to do it at all ^^

          and like there are also no relevant projects i think that fork it to other devices, so i dont know, i mean somebody could start doing that but i guess that shows how hard it is to do

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            3 hours ago

            thank you, i think i saw that somwhere before. is it really true that the haressment is made up? like i honestly dont know

            The one making the claims should provide the evidence.

            and does it really has an impact on the eco system? i never really thought abou it…

            Yes, it pushes for a Google monopoly in hardware, it creates a false narrative that there is no difference in privacy and/or security between alternative Android versions and ones by vendors. This further entrenches Google’s control of Android as it limits the options for Android users.

            And i guess fair point that this is a security flaw considering the phone users beeing targeted… But like i still kinda think hardware backed security is important and also very crucial is, that the more devices they supporty the less recourses they have… I think considering how long it is since pixel 10 released and it is still not supported, would make me guess that they dont have like any free time really to do it at all ^^

            I do believe Google has taken decisions that forced them to look for a new OEM, I am not sure if does affect the Pixel 10.