No it’s not viable, Elon is a grifter. This isn’t Atlas, whose autonomy and stability has been in development for three decades.
Musk knows it’s easier to raise funds by showing off advanced puppets, because most of the work is the autonomy and stability.
Elon’s most famous line is “we’ll have it next year” - that’s where his money comes from, he’s been saying that about Tesla fully self driving for six years or more, and still hasn’t got there. He’s even said it about having people on Mars.
The man is a grifter, no idea with him is viable, as it would end his main source of income, it would end the grift.
Flase promises and under delivery is his business model. It’s how he raises money.
he’s been saying that about Tesla fully self driving for six years or more
Basically 12 years according to wiki:
Since 2013, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has repeatedly predicted that the company would achieve fully autonomous driving (SAE Level 5) within one to three years
Its not though. They have had robots that can mirror humans for more than a decade. They don’t use them for hazardous work for one REALLY simple reason:
They are worth more than humans.
Seriously. Anything that is so dangerous that it is prohibitively expensive to safely do with humans just gets exported to the third world where humans aren’t worth anything. Why use million dollar robots when you can can just use brown guys in sandals for a nickel an hour instead?
Take auto battery recycling. That is a dangerous job that requires a lot of PPE and a ton of environmental mitigation efforts for the factory doing it. You have tons of vent hoods and lots of training and tons of inspections and oversight. Of course, that is only if you want to recycle batteries in a country that has workers rights, which is why no one recycles batteries in those countries. Instead, those batteries all get shipped to Africa where dudes break them apart with hammers in a field and cook out the metals in open pits and dump the acid into their water supply. Sure, those dudes are going to be dead in a 3 years, but who cares? Battery companies make a ton by getting the cheap recycled materials back and selling new “recycled” batteries.
The existence of more than one brand of any given product would indicate one of us doesn’t understand something.
Capitalism exists to funnel wealth upward through ownership of the means.
It isn’t immediately and perfectly efficient at anything it does, creating a market of perfectly optimized and perfectly profitable goods like your comment accidentally implies.
I think there’s a difference here on viable product vs practical product.
The human form is so powerful in a labor setting not because the human form is the absolute best, it’s because a person can be autonomous with very little direction. With robots you have to meticulously program them for every single movement and timing, and coordinating the dozens of joints a humanoid robot would have just isn’t worth the practical effort. Far cheaper, easier, and faster to build a robot with the exact number of joints you need for the job at hand.
The thing about this con is that that’s actually a viable product so… Why fake it? Are they too stupid to see useful that is hazardous work?
No it’s not viable, Elon is a grifter. This isn’t Atlas, whose autonomy and stability has been in development for three decades.
Musk knows it’s easier to raise funds by showing off advanced puppets, because most of the work is the autonomy and stability.
Elon’s most famous line is “we’ll have it next year” - that’s where his money comes from, he’s been saying that about Tesla fully self driving for six years or more, and still hasn’t got there. He’s even said it about having people on Mars.
The man is a grifter, no idea with him is viable, as it would end his main source of income, it would end the grift.
Flase promises and under delivery is his business model. It’s how he raises money.
Basically 12 years according to wiki:
And some, myself included, didn’t think Tesla will ever achieve it. Not without LIDAR.
Its not though. They have had robots that can mirror humans for more than a decade. They don’t use them for hazardous work for one REALLY simple reason:
They are worth more than humans.
Seriously. Anything that is so dangerous that it is prohibitively expensive to safely do with humans just gets exported to the third world where humans aren’t worth anything. Why use million dollar robots when you can can just use brown guys in sandals for a nickel an hour instead?
Take auto battery recycling. That is a dangerous job that requires a lot of PPE and a ton of environmental mitigation efforts for the factory doing it. You have tons of vent hoods and lots of training and tons of inspections and oversight. Of course, that is only if you want to recycle batteries in a country that has workers rights, which is why no one recycles batteries in those countries. Instead, those batteries all get shipped to Africa where dudes break them apart with hammers in a field and cook out the metals in open pits and dump the acid into their water supply. Sure, those dudes are going to be dead in a 3 years, but who cares? Battery companies make a ton by getting the cheap recycled materials back and selling new “recycled” batteries.
There’s a difference between a viable product and the most profitable option even under capitalism.
You don’t understand capitalism if you seriously think anything but the most profitable option is viable.
The existence of more than one brand of any given product would indicate one of us doesn’t understand something.
Capitalism exists to funnel wealth upward through ownership of the means.
It isn’t immediately and perfectly efficient at anything it does, creating a market of perfectly optimized and perfectly profitable goods like your comment accidentally implies.
A viable product is something with a customer. This doesn’t have one.
I think there’s a difference here on viable product vs practical product.
The human form is so powerful in a labor setting not because the human form is the absolute best, it’s because a person can be autonomous with very little direction. With robots you have to meticulously program them for every single movement and timing, and coordinating the dozens of joints a humanoid robot would have just isn’t worth the practical effort. Far cheaper, easier, and faster to build a robot with the exact number of joints you need for the job at hand.