• octopus_ink@lemmy.ml
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    I don’t disagree with you about this specific case, I was reacting to your “people put too much stock in being cuffed.” Removing another person’s bodily autonomy under direct threat of violence is just another day for police, but for the rest of us it’s a pretty fucking traumatic thing to be on the other end of.

    Perhaps if you don’t understand what police officers go through, I could see it.

    I understand they can pick a different job if it’s too much for them, and that they knew what the job entailed when they picked the career in the first place.

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      Removing another person’s bodily autonomy under direct threat of violence is just another day for police, but for the rest of us it’s a pretty fucking traumatic thing to be on the other end of.

      I don’t think it’s traumatic at all if the police handle it right, as I predicated earlier. Police in most cases don’t need to throw you to the ground, don’t need to scream at you etc. It does happen yes, and it absolutely shouldn’t happen unless there is an extremely good reason for it. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. I’m specifically saying, if the police handle it right, it’s not traumatizing nor humiliating

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        And I’m saying, even if they are polite, they are polite because I comply. If I don’t really want to be in handcuffs right then - doesn’t matter. If I’ve got an important appointment or was about to leave to pick up my child from school before police arrived to “make sure I’m not a threat” - doesn’t matter.

        Your options at that point, even as someone who has done nothing wrong are comply, or expect violence. THAT is inherently traumatic.

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          I’m not sure whether that being traumatic is a good thing or a bad thing, but if something like that is the extent to which someone could get trauma, I can only suspect they have lived quite the good life I suppose.

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            Wow what a dodge. It doesn’t matter the extent of the trauma or whether it’s the worst trauma they have had. You are minding your own business, have done nothing wrong, then the cops show up with a random accusation and “need” to put you in cuffs while they determine if you are a threat. Comply or violence. It’s not right.

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              Of course it isn’t right. When did this become right or wrong? It’s about traumatic or not. There are lots of things in life you have to deal with that aren’t right. They’re very wrong oftentimes, but you deal with that. Being traumatized over something like that is just insane.

              I would get being upset with it maybe for a couple days. But having a long lasting mental injury because you got handcuffed is… Impressively weak.

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                Given your posts, I’m thinking you are a cop. This post certainly shows the absolute utter lack of imagination and empathy that cops have.

                You should have become a fire fighter if you wanted people to admire your self sacrifice.