I was once given cocaine eye drops in a hospital though (it’s a combined vasoconstrictor and analgesic, which makes it good for facial injuries that tend to hurt and swell/bleed a lot). Just because something can have a clinical use case doesn’t make it safe for anyone to use it regularly.
Had a minor surgery earlier this year. They gave me fentanyl as the drug to put me under. Was hella surprised about it. Also I see why people love that shit so much.
But also for fentanyl’s danger, I think it comes down to how small a dose you need to hit the LD50/50 point is so low that you can hit it by accident without even trying. Street drugs are also being laced with Fentanyl and not in safe / well regulated doses. If you had a lab grade supplier, it’d probably be safer / easier to do safely…but I don’t think that’s what people are doing…
Are you sure the fentanyl wasn’t supplemental to something else like propofol? It’s not used for anesthesia induction before surgery AFAIK, just pain relief afterwards. If the IV burned a little when they pushed the plunger down on a syringe full of milky fluid, that was propofol.
But I can see an anesthesiologist saying something like, “We’re going to put you under now. We’ll give you fentanyl so you won’t be in pain when you wake up.”
I want to say they gave me two stages of anesthetic, but I also think fentanyl was the first of the two stages (counter to what you’re saying should have happened). But also, I’m at best an amateur at chemistry; even less when it comes to medicine. That said, reasonably certain what they gave me was not milky nor did it burn going in (you’ll have to excuse me if I misremember any deets, it was my first time going under and I was irrationally nervous about it)
I could have some things mixed up, but it did stand out in my mind that they used fentanyl (and I remember how fuckin’ nice it felt when they threw it in my veins). But that’s how I remember it.
I don’t know what order they should have been given in. Maybe the fentanyl was first? Did your tongue just go numb and your vision go dark for a few seconds before you passed out or did it feel like an angel tossed you into a zero gravity hot tub and instantly jerked you off?
It was more the second one (tho I think the dose was small enough to miss the full jerked off effect).
But it also wasn’t a full “being put under” (they said they were aiming for a full under situation, but that they really just needed to “turn off” my sensitivity in some sensitive spots), and so I have at least a fuzzy memory of everything that happened along the way.
True, fentanyl might kill you while nitrous will just put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. With poor fine motor so even gooning won’t be the same.
I also hate all the misinformation surrounding fentanyl, fucking surgeons use it for fucks sake, shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.
I also hate all the misinformation surrounding Ivermectin, horse vets use it for horses’ sake, shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.
I was once given cocaine eye drops in a hospital though (it’s a combined vasoconstrictor and analgesic, which makes it good for facial injuries that tend to hurt and swell/bleed a lot). Just because something can have a clinical use case doesn’t make it safe for anyone to use it regularly.
Had a minor surgery earlier this year. They gave me fentanyl as the drug to put me under. Was hella surprised about it. Also I see why people love that shit so much.
But also for fentanyl’s danger, I think it comes down to how small a dose you need to hit the LD50/50 point is so low that you can hit it by accident without even trying. Street drugs are also being laced with Fentanyl and not in safe / well regulated doses. If you had a lab grade supplier, it’d probably be safer / easier to do safely…but I don’t think that’s what people are doing…
Are you sure the fentanyl wasn’t supplemental to something else like propofol? It’s not used for anesthesia induction before surgery AFAIK, just pain relief afterwards. If the IV burned a little when they pushed the plunger down on a syringe full of milky fluid, that was propofol.
But I can see an anesthesiologist saying something like, “We’re going to put you under now. We’ll give you fentanyl so you won’t be in pain when you wake up.”
I’m not sure.
I want to say they gave me two stages of anesthetic, but I also think fentanyl was the first of the two stages (counter to what you’re saying should have happened). But also, I’m at best an amateur at chemistry; even less when it comes to medicine. That said, reasonably certain what they gave me was not milky nor did it burn going in (you’ll have to excuse me if I misremember any deets, it was my first time going under and I was irrationally nervous about it)
I could have some things mixed up, but it did stand out in my mind that they used fentanyl (and I remember how fuckin’ nice it felt when they threw it in my veins). But that’s how I remember it.
I don’t know what order they should have been given in. Maybe the fentanyl was first? Did your tongue just go numb and your vision go dark for a few seconds before you passed out or did it feel like an angel tossed you into a zero gravity hot tub and instantly jerked you off?
Lmao, love those descriptions.
It was more the second one (tho I think the dose was small enough to miss the full jerked off effect).
But it also wasn’t a full “being put under” (they said they were aiming for a full under situation, but that they really just needed to “turn off” my sensitivity in some sensitive spots), and so I have at least a fuzzy memory of everything that happened along the way.
Comparing nitrous oxide to fentanyl is actually fucking stupid.
True, fentanyl might kill you while nitrous will just put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. With poor fine motor so even gooning won’t be the same.
If Steve O didn’t end up in a wheelchair from his nitrous use, then I think that might be a hyperbole…
Only if you abuse it. Like I had said already.
you’re right, one can be bought legally and used to even be available on amazon and the other gets you in jail