i think that the future generation who’s raised by ai slop made by clankers would end up supporting a future fascist regime in the us.

how do you think this can be solved?

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    oh and i DON’T wanna be the kind of person who goes “you said that capitalism is bad, yet you’re using products of capitalism” (which if you can ask me i consider as a fallacy), but you live in the us. the first amendment allows for the freedoms of religion, of the press and of speech, and to assemble peacefully and to redress grievances. you’re exercising your right to express yourself and to redress grievances by stating something critical of the us, especially when the us became a country back in the 1770s and such.

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      I said that. I live in the US. I am a settler colonist. What of it?

      Yes. Lots of German fascists were allowed to express themselves. You may not realize this but the stories that every single critic was murdered are actually just stories and not true.

      What was true was that the government spied on everyone they could. Guess that the US has been doing? Spying on every single digital communication for the last 25 years.

      So, yeah, what are you arguing?

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        1. you went a long way to godwin’s law - “as an online discussion goes on, it becomes more and more likely for someone to do comparisons to fascism.”

        2. if i can give an example spying on everyone, it’d be the nsa.

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          1. You literally opened the thread with a hypothesis about fascism. How am I the one to blame here? You can’t be serious.

          2. That’s correct, the US has been spying on its citizens for a long time, just like the fascists did. That would be evidence that the US might be fascist, despite the fact that they don’t punish everyone who speaks out against them, and the reality is that the fascists also did not punish everyone who spoke out against them. This particular line of reasoning was raised when you said that I was in America posting online in critique of my government as potentially evidence for how the US is not yet fascist, but as I said, fascists didn’t punish everyone who critiqued them either but what they did do was spy in everyone so they could figure out who they wanted to punish, which the US is definitely doing

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            do you think i should study socialist/communist theory a bit more?

            oh and this is my 600th comment here on this lemmy instance, a lot more than how many comments i’ve posted on hexbear. seriously!

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              Of course! We all should! Until we die. We should never stop learning and there is never an end to the things we can learn. Study more theory, but also study more history, and study literary critique and the history of literary critique, and study philosophical theory and history, and study political theory and history, and study economics and the history of economics as a field of study.

              Study forever. Your positions will constantly be updating. Eventually you will have a bunch of good evidence for positions that you can rely on and build from, while always recognizing that new evidence could undermine those positions and you should be open to that.

              Stop trying to establish what you support and what you oppose and start trying to identify what you are ignorant of and how you can fix that.