Past me can give consent for themselves, yeah. If I ever change my mind then so too does the status of the consent.
So, if the present version of the person in the comic gave consent, but the past version did not, then consent would not be given. Time travel or no, it is up to the individual.
(Edit: I was talking about broad consent here without taking into context the subject matter of the comic. I was trying to avoid that subject matter because it is gross, and hoisted myself by my own petard in the process. To be clear - The past version is under age and therefore cannot give consent in the depicted scenario.)
I don’t agree that they are the same person. Even though they’re two instances of one being. They’re two physically separate bits of mass with different opinions on the situation.
In real life you have a continuous line from past to future me, I include all my previous experiencs. Most people would agree that makes it OK for future-me to bear consequences of past-me decisions.
Time travel breaks the logic and makes past-me a subject of decisions of future-me. Which is fucked up and does not count as consent imo.
Which is fucked up and does not count as consent imo.
How much of that is due to it not being a possibility in real life, though?
In real life you have a continuous line from past me to future me.
Future you still has to live with the memories and consequences of any decisions they take that affects past them. And if they screw up their past too badly they cease to exist (depending on which multiverse theory we’re going with). That’s a pretty direct line.
What happens to future-me is kinda irrelevant (and also depends on how time travel works). The past me is being affected by events they did not do or know about (through future me). The line doesn’t go backwards.
I’m not talking about just sex here. There’s plenty of legally binding stuff you can’t withdraw from one you’ve agreed to them.
Well you should have been more clear on that. I also could have been more clear that I was talking about body autonomy (like the situation in the comic) and not legally binding contracts.
I didn’t think I had to be that explicit with the details. No. I was not intending to imply that. Honestly the topic of the comic is gross and I was trying not to acknowledge it too much. I was mostly just talking about the past/future bodily consent issue in general. Sorry I wasn’t more clear.
Edit: I had a different reply earlier where I was jerkish. Sorry. I shouldn’t comment whilst grouchy and sleepy. I re-read my earlier comment and, yeah, I can see how that came off that way.
Past me can give consent for themselves, yeah. If I ever change my mind then so too does the status of the consent.
So, if the present version of the person in the comic gave consent, but the past version did not, then consent would not be given. Time travel or no, it is up to the individual.
(Edit: I was talking about broad consent here without taking into context the subject matter of the comic. I was trying to avoid that subject matter because it is gross, and hoisted myself by my own petard in the process. To be clear - The past version is under age and therefore cannot give consent in the depicted scenario.)
I don’t agree that they are the same person. Even though they’re two instances of one being. They’re two physically separate bits of mass with different opinions on the situation.
Not really. I’m not talking about just sex here. There’s plenty of legally binding stuff you can’t withdraw from one you’ve agreed to them.
What if tomorrow you was sending messages back in time to make arrangements on your behalf?
Yes, ask anybody who wakes up the next morning with a killer hangover if they have a different opinion of the situation.
In real life you have a continuous line from past to future me, I include all my previous experiencs. Most people would agree that makes it OK for future-me to bear consequences of past-me decisions.
Time travel breaks the logic and makes past-me a subject of decisions of future-me. Which is fucked up and does not count as consent imo.
How much of that is due to it not being a possibility in real life, though?
Future you still has to live with the memories and consequences of any decisions they take that affects past them. And if they screw up their past too badly they cease to exist (depending on which multiverse theory we’re going with). That’s a pretty direct line.
What happens to future-me is kinda irrelevant (and also depends on how time travel works). The past me is being affected by events they did not do or know about (through future me). The line doesn’t go backwards.
Well you should have been more clear on that. I also could have been more clear that I was talking about body autonomy (like the situation in the comic) and not legally binding contracts.
Are you implying that if future version gives consent and past version gives consent even thoygh she is underage then it’s fine?
I didn’t think I had to be that explicit with the details. No. I was not intending to imply that. Honestly the topic of the comic is gross and I was trying not to acknowledge it too much. I was mostly just talking about the past/future bodily consent issue in general. Sorry I wasn’t more clear.
Edit: I had a different reply earlier where I was jerkish. Sorry. I shouldn’t comment whilst grouchy and sleepy. I re-read my earlier comment and, yeah, I can see how that came off that way.