I want the game that I look at and go “When did I get 1000 hours on the game?” Because I keep coming back to it.
But this is where we agree. I want to play games that are fun.
Seasons, dailies, battle passes, etc aren’t the things that I see as “staying power”, that’s microtransactions to a sunk cost fallacy.
Staying power to me is like Terraria, where I go in, build a world. Run around. Then wander off to something else… to wander back and play more Terraria.
I mostly agree with you, I feel like most games with staying power, are games that fundamentally will have you playing because you enjoy it.
I don’t think I can write off seasons in multiplayer games though, some games do benefit from having larger changes that happen at the end of these seasons.
Battle passes can at best be fine(if they at least pay for the next one), I don’t think any are particularly good as a metric for staying power, you still need/want to enjoy playing the game to progress the battle pass.
For me the best staying power is a game that has complexity and depth to mechanics. So I have something to improve on and chase(like lap times in sim racing)
With staying power I thought of games like Factorio.
Bought it once, played it for thousands of hours. A decade later or so it gets an extension which basically quintuples the content, am playing it thousands of hours more.
Factorio, rimworld, stardew valley, and project zomboid are the games I’m likely to be playing at any given time of year since they came out and every time there’s an expansion or update.
These weren’t expensive games to develop, I even played them for years when they weren’t yet finished.
I’m still of the opinion that the best games are the ones that are developed in a way is friendly to the mod community.
Mods literally made MechWarrior mercenaries, Minecraft and GTA5 into Great games rather than merely good ones.
Call me crazy, but I don’t want to play a game “with staying power”.
I want to play games that are fun, I finish them, then move on.
I don’t need a “forever game”. I don’t want seasons, season passes, dailies, battle passes, time limited, time gated content.
Crazy. I want to play a game with staying power.
I want the game that I look at and go “When did I get 1000 hours on the game?” Because I keep coming back to it.
But this is where we agree. I want to play games that are fun.
Seasons, dailies, battle passes, etc aren’t the things that I see as “staying power”, that’s microtransactions to a sunk cost fallacy.
Staying power to me is like Terraria, where I go in, build a world. Run around. Then wander off to something else… to wander back and play more Terraria.
I mostly agree with you, I feel like most games with staying power, are games that fundamentally will have you playing because you enjoy it.
I don’t think I can write off seasons in multiplayer games though, some games do benefit from having larger changes that happen at the end of these seasons.
Battle passes can at best be fine(if they at least pay for the next one), I don’t think any are particularly good as a metric for staying power, you still need/want to enjoy playing the game to progress the battle pass.
For me the best staying power is a game that has complexity and depth to mechanics. So I have something to improve on and chase(like lap times in sim racing)
With staying power I thought of games like Factorio.
Bought it once, played it for thousands of hours. A decade later or so it gets an extension which basically quintuples the content, am playing it thousands of hours more.
Factorio, rimworld, stardew valley, and project zomboid are the games I’m likely to be playing at any given time of year since they came out and every time there’s an expansion or update.
These weren’t expensive games to develop, I even played them for years when they weren’t yet finished.
I’m still of the opinion that the best games are the ones that are developed in a way is friendly to the mod community.
Mods literally made MechWarrior mercenaries, Minecraft and GTA5 into Great games rather than merely good ones.