Over the weekend I was given a crap 2in1 notebook. It is 10 years old and even by standards back then had low end hardware (MSRP was 300 Euro according to some googling).

The Atom CPU is 64bits, the UEFI 32bits – a combinaon I completely forgot existed and many distributions no longer support.

Not only does postmarketOS support 32bit UEFI, thanks to its smartphone focus it comes with zram preconfigured. Installation was easy using the graphical installer for generic x86-64.

So now I run a fully featured desktop, KDE Plasma, on it. None of that “lightweight” stuff that sacrifices features and usability for a few megabytes of RAM.

I only tweaked it a little bit. Firefox ran like shit. Chromium was better in that regard but for whatver reason YouTube specifically kept logging me out. Also RAM ran out once and Chromium was force closed by the OS.

I ended up installing KDE’s Falkon browser which offers the benefits of Chromium’s rendering speed without the logging out of YouTube part. It’s also a bit less resource intensive, yet comes wih an ad blocker and support for user scripts which relieves the lack of proper extensions.

pmOS doesn’t come with swap by default. I added a swap file which is quickly done. It’s barely used since switching to Falkon, currently only 100MB.

YouTube video playback at 1080p is smooth. Zero problems with suspend so far.

I’m not sure if it’s the result of defective hardware or just driver incompatibilities but Bluetooth is not recognized (bummer) and the camera isn’t either (don’t care for it).

Long story short:

I rescued a crap PC from the scrap pile. It’s now genuinely usable, albeit with the aformentioned caveats.

  • OR3X@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    I tried and tried to get postmarketos running on my 2013 Nexus 7 but never could get it to work.

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        9 hours ago

        Curious, which part do you get stuck at? I get all the way to the point where I flash the rootfs and it fails complaining that there isn’t enough space even though I specify the userdata partition as the target partition which has ~12GB of free space.

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    15 hours ago

    These low end computers are always a fun challenge. You end up trying a bunch of programs you have never even heard of, and you can also learn something along the way.

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      15 hours ago

      pmOS / Alpine Linux is definitively a bit outside my comfort zone. The apk package manager is so weird with its add and del commands instead of install and remove everyone else uses.

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        7 hours ago

        I can see they were aiming for shorter commands. Makes sense if you have to type them using a mobile phone.

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    15 hours ago

    If it has a replaceable drive you could check the bluetooth by putting in a new drive and installing somwthing like windows 7 just to see if it is in fact a driver error

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      15 hours ago

      It came with a factory reset version of Win10 but that ran so insanely bad, it kept crashing which to this degree isn’t normal even for Windows which is why I suspect faulty hardware.

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    15 hours ago

    Great job. As I see it the real problem is that low-end Wintel laptops seem to be going away, replaced first by Chromebooks and soon probably by Android laptop edition, which presumably will have the non-Intel architecture and weird blobs and locked bootloader of any smartphone. Or is this too pessimistic?

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      14 hours ago

      I think devices like the Framework 12 continue to be available but RAM and SSD costs won’t necessarily mean that lower end performance will not necessarily mean afforable, at least all the way through 2026.

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        14 hours ago

        Hmm. Having trouble parsing your negatives but I think you’re saying “expensive”.

        What bothers me is that a decade ago there were loads of Linux-compatible budget netbooks on sale at every big-box retailer, whereas there seems to be nothing today under 500 bucks/euro except Chromebooks, and nothing at all with a smallish screen except mega-expensive ultrabooks. It’s becoming a problem.

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          Luckily the second hand laptops from that era are still usually perfectly usable if you install some FOSS OS on it (Linux, BSDs, the various more obscure ones, tend to work fine on old computers). You can pick them up for quite cheap on ebay and the like, and then you have a perfectly usable daily driver (plus from before the era of seemingly trying to get rid of all the ports on a laptop).

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            48 minutes ago

            Yeah, all surely true and it’s always the solution given and it’s even the greenest one. But I just don’t think this is a real solution for normies, who tend to buy computers new (to the extent that they even buy them any more). And in this respect I’m like them, personally.

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    16 hours ago

    Might have to give it a shot, I tried a couple different lightweight OSs on my old Chromebook, maybe this one will feel right.

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      The graphical installer is a it bare bones but easy to use. Setup is slow because in the background it generates a disk image of packages that are being downloaded and the write speed of my USB drive was a big bottle neck. Selection of native packages isn’t the greatest but pmOS comes with Flathub configured out of the box. (I’m usually a proponent of Flatpak but being so memory constrained, I refrain from the overhad of loading Flatpak runtimes into memory.

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        I don’t mind a long install. I tried bazzite on it to match my desktop, just to see, and loading up the Bazzar(app repository) crashed itself, never actually opening. Mostly I just want an Internet/media machine that’s cheap, maybe with a few other program options, but really the 2gb Ram is tough to deal with.

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    10 minutes ago

    Boy do we have different definition of ultra low end. I find that machine low end but not extremely so.

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        7 minutes ago

        While in windows world that might be so, that hardware is in no way an extreme case to run a linux distro on. Just a normal walk in the park.