Is this like a roundabout way of asking which country is it better to be born in?
The thing is:
If you are born an American citizen, it’s implied that you probably speak English so you’d have a better shot at immigrating to another anglosphere country, and since you’re probably already westernized so you’re more desirable to the immigration authorities (but then again, you’ll still need an actual eligible reason to go, like you have a “skill” in demand or like have family there)
Being a born a Chinese citizen implies that you probably don’t speak English, or any foreig language for that matter. So you have more difficulty in trying to move abroad. (I mean the only other place that uses Mandarin is Taiwan, or maybe Singapore.) But if you wanna go to Canada, Australia, or Europe, you are now facing both linguistic and cultural issues.
As for me personally…
I’m actually not quite sure.
But I honestly just despise the ruling party of China so… there’s that. That really skews my judgement against living under their rule.
As for actually living there (assuming I don’t get harassed by the government for all the thing I’ve said overseas), I’d have to re-learn Mandarin, I can speak basics but I’d need to speak slower for my brain to catch up. I also can’t really write except by typing pinyin. And I also have trouble expressing thoughts since I’m so used to English at this point. I’d also no longer have citizenship there, so I’d essentially be like a foreigner, I mean I am a foreigner to them, legally speaking.
And this fucking censorship thing. I’d have to figure out how to use VPNs… and like… at any time the VPN could stop working… that would really make me sad if I can’t watch certain stuff, I mean like…
it would really be bad for mental health if I know a thing exist, but I can’t access it due to a stupid firewall.
Also the air quality… ugh… that air would be very annoying to deal with.
So… I don’t really wanna live there.
Really hard to find jobs, I think the lack of stable jobs was like one of the reasons why my parents brought us to the US.
I mean, the US isn’t exactly he most desirable place either, but if I were to move somewhere…
I wanna go to like Canada or Australia something (cuz Norway aint gonna take me, they are very strict on immigration).
Canada and Australia has a very big Chinese Diaspora population, so I feel more confortable there compared to like EU which I don’t think there are many ethnic Chinese living there.
I don’t want to like stand out in a crowd and I’m the only one that looks like me, know what I’m saying.
Over the past like decade or so since we’ve been here, my parents have like… financial assets invested in the US. Took like 5 years to save up money for that stuff. That’s all I’ll say, not gonna give any specific details for privacy reasons.
So… I’m not talking on behalf of other Chinese Americans… I’m just saying for us speficially, I only see a path of the future in the US, unless I get lucky and somehow obtain an immigration visa for an anglosphere country. And it’d still be a pain to transfer stuff out of the US.
In the US, my (or technically my parents’) house is fully paid off¹. And honestly I just like this house way better than that shitty apartment we had in Guangzhou, China. That placed sucked, it was urban hell.
¹My mom had to borrow a lot of money from family and friends, took like many years or something to pay it off. My mom had to work overtime a lot. Also btw China doesn’t have 1.5x overtime pay like the US does, also China has much lower pay, less work safety (no OHSA²), less breaks, no individual unions.
²Although, this admin is really trying to ged rid of OSHA too, RIP
China doesn’t have “suburbs”, not really, if you want a job, you have to live in a crowded city.
I like the “suburb” areas. Think of like Brooklyn, NYC, or Philly.
Like if I have kids, I wouldn’t really want them to grow up in China… that education system is gonna cause so much anxiety and depression.
I still remember being held after school hours in like 1st or 2nd grade because I couldn’t memorize a story word for word.
As long as they don’t actually pass Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0, I don’t think we’re leaving any time soon.
But it really depends on what happens in 2029.
For example: In Vietnam, Chinese Diaspora had to flee when the North Vietnam government won the Vietnam War.
That type of stuff could happen here.
Ideally I would try to flee to Canada if that happens, but its hard to say, if they don’t accept us, I could end up in China if nobody else is willing to take Chinese Americans.
Tldr: Kinda rambled a bit, but US is still better than China, for my family at least, for now at least. We don’t have any assets back in China.
Thanks, I’ve been trying to figure outu the truth about China. Western culture made me think it’s a hellhole and it seems to agree but only in part, not to the degree I’m used to seeing online.
I like one order of Norweigian Citizenship pls.
But seriously, idk.
Is this like a roundabout way of asking which country is it better to be born in?
The thing is:
If you are born an American citizen, it’s implied that you probably speak English so you’d have a better shot at immigrating to another anglosphere country, and since you’re probably already westernized so you’re more desirable to the immigration authorities (but then again, you’ll still need an actual eligible reason to go, like you have a “skill” in demand or like have family there)
Being a born a Chinese citizen implies that you probably don’t speak English, or any foreig language for that matter. So you have more difficulty in trying to move abroad. (I mean the only other place that uses Mandarin is Taiwan, or maybe Singapore.) But if you wanna go to Canada, Australia, or Europe, you are now facing both linguistic and cultural issues.
As for me personally…
I’m actually not quite sure.
But I honestly just despise the ruling party of China so… there’s that. That really skews my judgement against living under their rule.
As for actually living there (assuming I don’t get harassed by the government for all the thing I’ve said overseas), I’d have to re-learn Mandarin, I can speak basics but I’d need to speak slower for my brain to catch up. I also can’t really write except by typing pinyin. And I also have trouble expressing thoughts since I’m so used to English at this point. I’d also no longer have citizenship there, so I’d essentially be like a foreigner, I mean I am a foreigner to them, legally speaking.
And this fucking censorship thing. I’d have to figure out how to use VPNs… and like… at any time the VPN could stop working… that would really make me sad if I can’t watch certain stuff, I mean like…
it would really be bad for mental health if I know a thing exist, but I can’t access it due to a stupid firewall.
Also the air quality… ugh… that air would be very annoying to deal with.
So… I don’t really wanna live there.
Really hard to find jobs, I think the lack of stable jobs was like one of the reasons why my parents brought us to the US.
I mean, the US isn’t exactly he most desirable place either, but if I were to move somewhere…
I wanna go to like Canada or Australia something (cuz Norway aint gonna take me, they are very strict on immigration).
Canada and Australia has a very big Chinese Diaspora population, so I feel more confortable there compared to like EU which I don’t think there are many ethnic Chinese living there.
I don’t want to like stand out in a crowd and I’m the only one that looks like me, know what I’m saying.
Over the past like decade or so since we’ve been here, my parents have like… financial assets invested in the US. Took like 5 years to save up money for that stuff. That’s all I’ll say, not gonna give any specific details for privacy reasons.
So… I’m not talking on behalf of other Chinese Americans… I’m just saying for us speficially, I only see a path of the future in the US, unless I get lucky and somehow obtain an immigration visa for an anglosphere country. And it’d still be a pain to transfer stuff out of the US.
In the US, my (or technically my parents’) house is fully paid off¹. And honestly I just like this house way better than that shitty apartment we had in Guangzhou, China. That placed sucked, it was urban hell.
¹My mom had to borrow a lot of money from family and friends, took like many years or something to pay it off. My mom had to work overtime a lot. Also btw China doesn’t have 1.5x overtime pay like the US does, also China has much lower pay, less work safety (no OHSA²), less breaks, no individual unions.
²Although, this admin is really trying to ged rid of OSHA too, RIP
China doesn’t have “suburbs”, not really, if you want a job, you have to live in a crowded city.
I like the “suburb” areas. Think of like Brooklyn, NYC, or Philly.
Like if I have kids, I wouldn’t really want them to grow up in China… that education system is gonna cause so much anxiety and depression.
I still remember being held after school hours in like 1st or 2nd grade because I couldn’t memorize a story word for word.
As long as they don’t actually pass Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0, I don’t think we’re leaving any time soon.
But it really depends on what happens in 2029.
For example: In Vietnam, Chinese Diaspora had to flee when the North Vietnam government won the Vietnam War.
That type of stuff could happen here.
Ideally I would try to flee to Canada if that happens, but its hard to say, if they don’t accept us, I could end up in China if nobody else is willing to take Chinese Americans.
Tldr: Kinda rambled a bit, but US is still better than China, for my family at least, for now at least. We don’t have any assets back in China.
Damn
Thanks, I’ve been trying to figure outu the truth about China. Western culture made me think it’s a hellhole and it seems to agree but only in part, not to the degree I’m used to seeing online.