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      Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

      I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.

      Megathread on the issue

      Some highlights from the link:

      "Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

      “See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

      .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

      “NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

      General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

      “If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

      And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

      I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

      On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.

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        Why use so many accounts? Don’t give me the “I’m supporting smaller instances” take. It’s not supporting smaller instances when you make them look like they’re part of your spam network. If it’s to create communities on them, why not just post to them specifically? Why post to one of the larger instances with a million accounts?

        It only serves to make it look like you’re a spam network while also making it next to impossible to block your posts. Users will try to block you, think they’ve successfully curated their feeds, only to have you turn up again. It’s not a great Lemmy experience.

        It also is not a good look to strip any reference to the OP, cross posts exist for a reason. It just makes it look like you’re stealing people’s posts and trying to make them your own.

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          Why use so many accounts? Don’t give me the “I’m supporting smaller instances” take. It’s not supporting smaller instances when you make them look like they’re part of your spam network.

          I’ve told you before my reasons, if you choose not believe them, that’s on you, maybe you’d like me to just make something up that fits better with your predetermined narrative?

          1. Promoting smaller instances, because of the volume of my posting it helps makes smaller instances more recognizable
          2. Making comms on fitting smaller instances (e.g. a programming comm id make on programming.dev)
          3. Mitigating against the imposter problem
          4. Better interconnecting smaller instances

          It only serves to make it look like you’re a spam network while also making it next to impossible to block your posts. Users will try to block you, think they’ve successfully curated their feeds, only to have you turn up again. It’s not a great Lemmy experience.

          Unintended unfortunate side effect, if I truly wanted to dodge the people blocking me or wanted to make a “spam network” why on earth would I use a widely recognizable username? If I wanted to do such things I would generate unrelated usernames and make a million accounts that way. Each account would last much much longer. This method would be the dumbest possible implementation of it lmfao

          Plus, it would be a whole hell of a lot easier to just setup shop on a larger instance and call it a day, it’s a lot more work to need to sub to all the comms these smaller instances are missing when I need to post to them, among other random small issues lol

          It also is not a good look to strip any reference to the OP, cross posts exist for a reason. It just makes it look like you’re stealing people’s posts and trying to make them your own.

          All crossposts show in the crosspost section of your relevant client:

          Text posts which have no link to lock onto get a username tag in the post, OC gets a username tag regardless

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            All crossposts show in the crosspost section of your relevant client:

            I guess the Lemmy dev team also fucked this part up, because I can’t see crosspost of this post in Jerboa, for example

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              It has to do with the proxying URLs on images, every once in awhile no matter what I do I can’t get it to shows as a crosspost

              See this is how this post is:

              Which is what should lock on and show as a crosspost like all the other image posts, but it just…doesn’t in rare occasions lol

              (Or sometimes it won’t show as a crosspost because your instance has site-banned the other user)

              Edit: Oh just realized you’re on .cafe, you won’t see the crosspost regardless because cafe defeds the whole triad and the crosspost would be on .ml

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                Ah, interesting. I sometimes see links to the original post on .ml when viewing crosspost and sometimes I don’t. Could be depending on the post type (image vs text vs link to something else)

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            Huh, I would never have guessed that reasoning. Until now, I had just assumed all of these accounts were attempts from a spammer to get around bans or something.

            It isn’t what you intended, but it comes off as super fishy. This is just one person’s opinion, but I had subconsciously developed a very negative view of this cm0002 army, and I wouldn’t be surprised if others have too.

            If you’re going to continue to use a huge number of accounts, I would suggest at the very least adding an explanation on each profile so suspicious people like me can understand what we’re looking at and who we’re interacting with. A single comment like this on just one of dozens of accounts will be seen by very few.

            Your goal of promoting smaller instances is admirable, but you may want to look at other ways of doing so. Ideally, it would be nice to just see a single account develop a good reputation and relationships within the Lemmyverse, but do what you feel you need to do.

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              If you’re going to continue to use a huge number of accounts, I would suggest at the very least adding an explanation on each profile so suspicious people like me can understand what we’re looking at and who we’re interacting with. A single comment like this on just one of dozens of accounts will be seen by very few.

              Lol I was actually going to write a script to update all my accounts to have the same pfp, but I should get around to that faster so I can do this to!

              Ideally, it would be nice to just see a single account develop a good reputation and relationships

              I actually kinda did this with my .world account, doing everything through that account and a select few other accounts…but then that whole JordanLund debacle made me essentially abandon it so I figured I might as well float around on these smaller instances that never get attention lol