… You’re kidding, right? Are you 5, or something? It’s a serious question, I’m trying to understand how someone can write that down and be serious about it.
You will always need police, because there will always be misbehaving elements in society. Be it due to mental illness or plain psychopaths, doesn’t really matter, you need a trained group of people designated to be the ones to keep society nice. Let’s call them “police”
From the mad ramblings of what you wrote, it sounded like the description of police and a judge / justice system only much, much worse. You want random untrained idiots to decide on justice matters? I’m sorry no.
I want a judge who has been trained and learned how to be ethical and impartial. I want police that has been trained, especially in de-escalation, who have been checked for not being psychopaths.
There is nothing wrong with the basics of current police systems (not you US, you’re fucked up) we just need more focus on police being trained better (or, in case of the US, trained at all), being monitored better by independent groups to ensure abuses stay at a minimum.
We need changes like limiting net worth. If we limit net worth to (just an example) 1 million dollar and any income after that goes 100% to taxes, we don’t need to change anything else. Nobody can be super rich anymore, nobody can have crazy bad influence anymore, we’d literally be all the same.
Governments get huge tax incomes that can be used for free healthcare, free education, universal basic income, even. It’s a simple single change that will have the most impact.
If you’re interested in how a society without police could look like, there’s a good book by Ursula K. Le Guine, called " The Dispossessed".
If you’re interested about more theoretical work on why the police is a problem, you can search for “Abolition” or “Restorative Justice”. Especially for the latter there are loads of Videos explaining how to deal with unjust behavior of individuals.
There is a ton of theoretical work about how to resolve conflict and harm done without involving the police or the penal system. Its a very interesting subject and just imagining a society without police and penal justice can make for good utopia’s to strive for. Maybe it doesn’t work, but working towards a society that doesn’t need those systems is worth it in any case.
Here’s the issue with joke ideologies like anarchy, they only ever work in theory. They’re so deeply flawed that they collapse in on themselves any time they’re attempted in real life. Therefore, these ideologies only ever exists in fiction books and philosophical theories that revolve around unrealistic hypotheticals. In other words, anarchy is as a concept is nothing more than a thought exercise because it’s too fundamentally flawed to be anything more.
I you okay that police kill us fro moving from a place to another, getting food, or just by racism, I’m not interested in your opinion. But I’ve got another question : why shall we care of the life of someone who clearly don’t give a shit a ours ?
I answered the question accurately and good faith based on anarchist theory and actual implementations by anarchist autonomous zones like Mexico’s Zapatistas. If you don’t like the answer or agree with it philosophically, that is entirely on you.
… You’re kidding, right? Are you 5, or something? It’s a serious question, I’m trying to understand how someone can write that down and be serious about it.
I was answering a question I know the answer to, not proselytizing. But you stay classy, eh?
… You’re kidding, right? Are you 5, or something? It’s a serious question, I’m trying to understand how someone can write that down and be serious about it.
You will always need police, because there will always be misbehaving elements in society. Be it due to mental illness or plain psychopaths, doesn’t really matter, you need a trained group of people designated to be the ones to keep society nice. Let’s call them “police”
From the mad ramblings of what you wrote, it sounded like the description of police and a judge / justice system only much, much worse. You want random untrained idiots to decide on justice matters? I’m sorry no.
I want a judge who has been trained and learned how to be ethical and impartial. I want police that has been trained, especially in de-escalation, who have been checked for not being psychopaths.
There is nothing wrong with the basics of current police systems (not you US, you’re fucked up) we just need more focus on police being trained better (or, in case of the US, trained at all), being monitored better by independent groups to ensure abuses stay at a minimum.
We need changes like limiting net worth. If we limit net worth to (just an example) 1 million dollar and any income after that goes 100% to taxes, we don’t need to change anything else. Nobody can be super rich anymore, nobody can have crazy bad influence anymore, we’d literally be all the same.
Governments get huge tax incomes that can be used for free healthcare, free education, universal basic income, even. It’s a simple single change that will have the most impact.
If you’re interested in how a society without police could look like, there’s a good book by Ursula K. Le Guine, called " The Dispossessed". If you’re interested about more theoretical work on why the police is a problem, you can search for “Abolition” or “Restorative Justice”. Especially for the latter there are loads of Videos explaining how to deal with unjust behavior of individuals. There is a ton of theoretical work about how to resolve conflict and harm done without involving the police or the penal system. Its a very interesting subject and just imagining a society without police and penal justice can make for good utopia’s to strive for. Maybe it doesn’t work, but working towards a society that doesn’t need those systems is worth it in any case.
Anyways, hope you have a wonderful day! Cheers
Here’s the issue with joke ideologies like anarchy, they only ever work in theory. They’re so deeply flawed that they collapse in on themselves any time they’re attempted in real life. Therefore, these ideologies only ever exists in fiction books and philosophical theories that revolve around unrealistic hypotheticals. In other words, anarchy is as a concept is nothing more than a thought exercise because it’s too fundamentally flawed to be anything more.
I you okay that police kill us fro moving from a place to another, getting food, or just by racism, I’m not interested in your opinion. But I’ve got another question : why shall we care of the life of someone who clearly don’t give a shit a ours ?
>“I’m not interested in your opinion” >Proceeds to ask for their opinion anyway in the very next sentence
I answered the question accurately and good faith based on anarchist theory and actual implementations by anarchist autonomous zones like Mexico’s Zapatistas. If you don’t like the answer or agree with it philosophically, that is entirely on you.
I was answering a question I know the answer to, not proselytizing. But you stay classy, eh?
So I enjoy good discourse, and I think most of your post is reasonable, but is it really necessary to start it off with insults and condescension?