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  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    23 hours ago

    This is an extremely strange way to describe the Chinese Civil War and the Second Sino-Japanese War. At best reductive in the extreme and at worst comically misleading.

    It’s literally the definition of a civil war.

    OK, so you do understand at least some of the differences between civil war and settler colonialism.

    Is the difference that ita colonialism if you need a boat to get there? Because I should point out Taiwan is an island.

    The Chinese nation is unquestionably older than any European or North American nation embodied in the current European and North American states, because there is unquestionably a Chinese culture that can be traced from those previous polities, which considered themselves Chinese.

    And this would be that cherrypicking I mentioned. I don’t fault that, because every method is cherrypicking, because there isn’t a “true” or “best” system.

    What I do fault is that you seem to be completely incapable of recognizing it when it happens on your team, but can spot it easily when going “America bad”.

    • LeninWeave [any]@lemmy.ml
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      23 hours ago

      It’s literally the definition of a civil war.

      No, it isn’t lmao. A huge number of people who fought against the CPC in the civil war went on to live in China afterwards. Some people switched sides. A civil war is fought for control over a country for many reasons, it’s not “a giant fucking war against people who were ready to die to prevent themselves from being part of” the country afterwards. The only reason to frame the Chinese Civil War like this other than ignorance is to soft-pedal glorification of or apologia for the KMT, painting them as some kind of popular resistance movement against the CPC.

      Is the difference that ita colonialism if you need a boat to get there? Because I should point out Taiwan is an island.

      “at least some of the differences”

      And this would be that cherrypicking I mentioned. I don’t fault that, because every method is cherrypicking, because there isn’t a “true” or “best” system.

      I’m not advocating a true or best system, this is a thread about the hypocrisy of an American nationalist on twitter. However, if you think that the Chinese Civil War wasn’t vastly “better” than colonialism (the comparison you seem to insist on making, for some reason), I think we have very little to say to each other.