Europa Universalis, Hearts of Iron, Stellaris and other Paradox games are infamous for having stacks of paid DLC, and execs know this can be "off-putting".
The problem that keeps some people away is that they release a game that is a bare bones experience and then fuck their customers with piecemeal DLC for years afterwards. They are so bold as to release a game with features removed from the previous game then sell those features as DLC.
I have no doubt that the devs working for Paradox make good games, and I would certainly like to play them and experience their work. Their management however are fucking scum who will never see any of my money unless they change their ways (they won’t).
This is exactly the case for me. I don’t mind a DLC or two if they are actual full expansions of the game, but when I see a hundred little ones that should all have been one thing, I won’t have anything to do with it.
They are one of very few studios who update their games for years after release. Games make the biggest chunk of lifetime revenue at release. Unless you are a unicorn and have low development costs (Minecraft, Terraria, factorio), you will simply go bankrupt updating your game for free. See the rise of industry dude, made 4 million and now lost his house. Why? He kept funding development for four years without any revenue. Everyone who wanted the game bought it in the first year.
If you want to keep updating your game for more than a couple of months you need cashflow. You have the choice of micro transactions, subscriptions or dlc. You need to do this or go bankrupt.
Paradox gives free content updates along every DLC. I really fail to see how that is bad. The alternative would be to simply release the game, patch it for a couple months, then start working on the next game, like every other game studio. But people would hate that to. You can really do nothing in the games industry without people hating on you.
They don’t though? Okay, i haven’t played any of their new stuff (my poison was Stellaris), but the base games have always been decent to play. Their dlc has been getting worse, Stellaris race packs just should not be a thing, but it’s not as bad as some people make it out to be.
Is there actually a way to get to play the original? We now kind of have Stellaris 2, and Stellaris 1 is some kind of abandonware?! Although officially they are both Stellaris 1, of course.
I’m apparently currently running Stellaris 4.2.3.
I didn’t even know it’s not Stellaris 1 anymore!
It’s… Weird. If they consider there to have been already Stellaris 2 and Stellaris 3, meaning they see it as a different game, then… Why just delete Stellaris 1?
But also, I do need to try downgrading to 2.1.3 and see how it feels now that I’m used to the ways of Stellaris 4!
The problem that keeps some people away is that they release a game that is a bare bones experience and then fuck their customers with piecemeal DLC for years afterwards. They are so bold as to release a game with features removed from the previous game then sell those features as DLC.
I have no doubt that the devs working for Paradox make good games, and I would certainly like to play them and experience their work. Their management however are fucking scum who will never see any of my money unless they change their ways (they won’t).
This is exactly the case for me. I don’t mind a DLC or two if they are actual full expansions of the game, but when I see a hundred little ones that should all have been one thing, I won’t have anything to do with it.
They are one of very few studios who update their games for years after release. Games make the biggest chunk of lifetime revenue at release. Unless you are a unicorn and have low development costs (Minecraft, Terraria, factorio), you will simply go bankrupt updating your game for free. See the rise of industry dude, made 4 million and now lost his house. Why? He kept funding development for four years without any revenue. Everyone who wanted the game bought it in the first year.
If you want to keep updating your game for more than a couple of months you need cashflow. You have the choice of micro transactions, subscriptions or dlc. You need to do this or go bankrupt.
Paradox gives free content updates along every DLC. I really fail to see how that is bad. The alternative would be to simply release the game, patch it for a couple months, then start working on the next game, like every other game studio. But people would hate that to. You can really do nothing in the games industry without people hating on you.
They don’t though? Okay, i haven’t played any of their new stuff (my poison was Stellaris), but the base games have always been decent to play. Their dlc has been getting worse, Stellaris race packs just should not be a thing, but it’s not as bad as some people make it out to be.
Stellaris on release and stellaris now are like 2 completely different games anyway
Is there actually a way to get to play the original? We now kind of have Stellaris 2, and Stellaris 1 is some kind of abandonware?! Although officially they are both Stellaris 1, of course.
We are kind of on stellaris 3.5 I would say. I think the 1.0 build is still available on steam
…wut?! How?
Go in properties of the game to the game version tab. But it looks like the oldest is 2.1.3 unfortunately
Oh, so Stellaris 4 is out already?!
I’m apparently currently running Stellaris 4.2.3. I didn’t even know it’s not Stellaris 1 anymore!
It’s… Weird. If they consider there to have been already Stellaris 2 and Stellaris 3, meaning they see it as a different game, then… Why just delete Stellaris 1?
But also, I do need to try downgrading to 2.1.3 and see how it feels now that I’m used to the ways of Stellaris 4!
Good question, maybe it was compatibility issues ? Might be able to find 1.0 somewhere online I’m sure