• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      The fact that immigration is even a thing here makes me chuckle. We literally killed the people who lived here, planned a flag and said that’s ours now. It’s such a laughably ridiculous concept. Every one of us here is a descendants of immigrants who came here looking for a better life.

        • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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          4 months ago

          i think, alas, the spirit remains true since indigenous people have been systematically barred from the levers of power. however, i still appreciate your comment because building something new that works for everyone will have to include, and frequently be led by, indigenous voices

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          I mean yes, but they were systemicatically murdered in a genocide, and forcibly removed from their land.

          Anybody who survived that period was forced to integrate with American society or face systemic persecution and often death.

          Hell, we went to war with a number of tribes bcz we wanted their land and resources. The point isn’t that Native Americans don’t exist today.

          Its that their culture was systematically destroyed and their homelands burned to the ground or taken over.

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            Yes, I acknowledge all of that. Which is why I was correcting you when you said every one of us is descended from immigrants looking for a better life. It’s wrong to act like they are completely gone, not because it makes our ancestors look bad, but because it erases the people and cultures who are still here with us and persevere.

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          Please point me to all of these supposed immigrant gangs. I’d love to read about it. All of the research data that I’ve seen points to immigrants committing violent crimes at a far lower rate than actual citizens of the U.S.

          If you don’t have actual data to back up your claims, you’re just spouting misinformation at best, or intentional disinformation at worst.

          Cartels are a different problem entirely. Those are drug gangs from other countries. So, in don’t even know why you’re bringing that up in the context of immigration.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      I have zero faith in congress’ ability to do this though.

      This is the crux of the problem. Nobody has faith in Congress’ ability to do anything.