Is this post in fuckcars? No? Well it should be. We should be investing more in public transit and building cities people can live in without necessarily owning a car. Your participation in society should not hinge on a multi-thousand dollar purchase of a car along with the yearly insurance and other maintenance costs.
If they are incapable of driving, and being a part of the statistics of people who kill others on the road, they must not drive. That’s easy. It’s not a death sentence. We prevent pedophiles from working with children, same thing.
Or we remove all the speed limits and seat belts being mandatory, but we know from 60 years of statistics that the numbers of people killed on the road will be multiplied by 100.
This is why the governor’s policy will work well. It let’s drivers stay on the road until they’ve been caught with many infractions. It’s a very different story when you take someone’s license away after a few speeding tickets versus taking their license away after a few speeding tickets, then several months of well-documented continued speeding incidents every time they drove. Losing your license has serious consequences in modern society, but my sympathy for dangerous drivers has a limit.
And the rich will just pay it and continue, it’s the poors that will suffer. But yeah it would be their fault because this would only be used after a number of offences that they could have just slowed down.
You can’t pay to not lose your license, that’s not how it works at all.
You should go sit in criminal court for a day.
The reality is many jurisdictions just don’t enforce such things very well - there are many cases around the country of people getting their 3rd, 4th, 5th DUI and not losing their license or worse as the law is defined.
And those are often as not, not “rich people”.
Frankly judges see so much worse crime in their courts constantly that I think they’re hesistant to jail someone who is a mostly functional member of society compared to 90% of everyone else coming through their court.
Then there’s also the plea-bargaining process: prosecuting attorneys are directed to plea-bargain pretty much all cases to expedite the case load - courts are largely overwhelmed. I’ve seen guys in chains accused of multiple violent assault felonies (like assaulted multiple people in one go) plea bargain down to a fucking misdemeanor.
Again, go sit in criminal court for a day and you’ll see what I mean - it’s eye opening.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while. Criminal court is for poor people. Rich people don’t go to court for traffic tickets. They hire a lawyer who’s the son in law of a judge and work out a fine and never see the inside of a court room. How naive are you?
That’s a very serious crime though. If you get pulled over without a license, it’s a several thousand dollar fine.
Cool so how are they supposed to ever get a job a home and live?
Should we just jail them for life to make it simple?
By respecting the speed limits? Wow, my idea is so novel, disruptive, and revolutionary!
So if they don’t respect speed limits they should be effectively exiled from society into poverty or jail?
Tell me you are a child incapable of governance without telling me
Wow! What a slamn
Tell me you’re an embryo incapable of understanding consequences, etc.
Zing!
Give them the guillotine like the people breaking laws you agree with!
Is this post in fuckcars? No? Well it should be. We should be investing more in public transit and building cities people can live in without necessarily owning a car. Your participation in society should not hinge on a multi-thousand dollar purchase of a car along with the yearly insurance and other maintenance costs.
Yes we should and you are 100% right but that isn’t the society we live in
We live in one where you cannot live in a true survival sense in 99% of all locations without a car
Until the public transit and walkable cities exist the wrong people are being punished
If they are incapable of driving, and being a part of the statistics of people who kill others on the road, they must not drive. That’s easy. It’s not a death sentence. We prevent pedophiles from working with children, same thing.
Or we remove all the speed limits and seat belts being mandatory, but we know from 60 years of statistics that the numbers of people killed on the road will be multiplied by 100.
You don’t prevent pedophiles from working you prevent them from working with kids
Under your own obscene pedophile analogy it’s actually much more appropriate to put speed limiters on cars than remove their cars entirely
You don’t prevent them from driving you prevent them from driving too fast
Take the bus moron. You can read on the bus.
You must not live in America if you think most people have access to a bus
Have you never been to New York City where this story takes place?
This is why the governor’s policy will work well. It let’s drivers stay on the road until they’ve been caught with many infractions. It’s a very different story when you take someone’s license away after a few speeding tickets versus taking their license away after a few speeding tickets, then several months of well-documented continued speeding incidents every time they drove. Losing your license has serious consequences in modern society, but my sympathy for dangerous drivers has a limit.
And the rich will just pay it and continue, it’s the poors that will suffer. But yeah it would be their fault because this would only be used after a number of offences that they could have just slowed down.
You can’t pay to not lose your license, that’s not how it works at all.
You should go sit in criminal court for a day.
The reality is many jurisdictions just don’t enforce such things very well - there are many cases around the country of people getting their 3rd, 4th, 5th DUI and not losing their license or worse as the law is defined.
And those are often as not, not “rich people”.
Frankly judges see so much worse crime in their courts constantly that I think they’re hesistant to jail someone who is a mostly functional member of society compared to 90% of everyone else coming through their court.
Then there’s also the plea-bargaining process: prosecuting attorneys are directed to plea-bargain pretty much all cases to expedite the case load - courts are largely overwhelmed. I’ve seen guys in chains accused of multiple violent assault felonies (like assaulted multiple people in one go) plea bargain down to a fucking misdemeanor.
Again, go sit in criminal court for a day and you’ll see what I mean - it’s eye opening.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a while. Criminal court is for poor people. Rich people don’t go to court for traffic tickets. They hire a lawyer who’s the son in law of a judge and work out a fine and never see the inside of a court room. How naive are you?
Some places don’t enforce this very well.