As an Anti DRM Gamer who really does not buy Games featuring Boot/RootKit i wonder if itd be possible to consider somehow a Ban against Denuvo, VM Protect and all these other Bullshit DRMs that go into your System and arent just tied to some kind of Online Service like the Steam Store for Example >.>
Would that even be feasable in the EU considering that we got osme Stricter Laws than lets say the US regarding Multi Media Content :P

  • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
    22·
    3 days ago

    Chances are basically zero.

    Steam should refuse to list games using any form of kernel-level anti-cheat. It is inherently insecure, reducing the security of your system even when not playing the game, and there is no way around that.

    But they’ll never take a position like that for consumers. That’s what GOG does.

    • Retro-Hax@feddit.orgOP
      1·
      3 days ago

      Sadly Steam is very much only caring about what the Publisher throws them Money at :(
      Obviously we all care about Money especially Companies but atleast GOG has the decency of telling you to fuck off if you try to put any kind of Malware into your Game :P
      Well except for Steamworld Builder which actually has some kind of Anti Cheat appearantly via Reading the Comments >.>
      https://www.gog.com/en/game/steamworld_build

  • luridness@lemmy.ml
    22·
    3 days ago

    Don’t think so.

    However we are seeing more games with denuvo remove it after a year.

    • Retro-Hax@feddit.orgOP
      2·
      3 days ago

      I mean thats true but i would say that the Chances of Denuvo and other such Cases are still a tiny Fraction of what they could be sadly :( Like for example even the Persona Games or any SEGA game really has the Issue of using Denuvo or some other kind of VM Protect Bullshit still multiple Years after it was released on PC >.>
      Only exception being the Yakuza Games really >.>

      For Example the Mega Man Legacy Collections besides 1 still use Denuvo :(
      Or the Dragon Quest Games for example :(
      tho i just hope that the DQ Games atleast follow the previous Games example of Denuvo being removed aftzer a Year or so like they did with the DQ HD Remakes >.>

        • Retro-Hax@feddit.orgOP
          3·
          3 days ago

          Beep Boop im an AI :P
          No joke this is literally what someone asked me if im just an AI Bot Scraper Thing >.>
          But seriously this is how i Type :P
          Unless you have trouble understaning me i wouldnt say just dont care about the Way i type :P

          • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
            15·
            3 days ago

            Unless you have trouble understaning me i wouldnt say just dont care about the Way i type :P

            Given usually adding capitalization to words not usually capitalized usually is used to convey some sort of emphasis, its harder to understand what its being conveyed.

  • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
    9·
    3 days ago

    Honestly, the world has so many much bigger problems.

    If gamers really want it gone they’ll do what I do and vote with their wallet. We’ve already seen some ramifications of that, with publishers sometimes removing it after just a few months or a year.

          • Ulrich@feddit.orgEnglish
            1·
            1 hour ago

            LOL no that’s MY point. Neither of them are working because no one is doing either of them.

            • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
              1·
              1 hour ago

              people are definetly “voting with their wallets”, myself included

              as always with stuff like that, only a minority cares, so a solution must be workable by a minority who does.

              if the solution for the problem is “if only people just…” then it’s not effective.

                • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
                  1·
                  1 hour ago

                  they are, that’s precisely my point.

                  it’s just that it doesn’t work and expecting it to is a waste of time.

                  we’d need another strategy.

  • Prove_your_argument@piefed.socialEnglish
    6·
    3 days ago

    Approximately impossible.

    We need regulation that states all paid software DRM must be removed from software after X time, probably more that says source code must be provided after Y time.

    I’m fine with the former being 5 years but the latter I understand as more of a 10 year thing. Zero reason I can think of to not force shit like this. Copyright and patent law needs to change.

    They can make the time limit start from the first sale.

  • FoundFootFootage78@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    3 days ago

    Not happening.

    Games would become Epic exclusive before they give up their KLAC, and that would hurt Steam far more than it would hurt Denuvo. Steam would not make such a poor business decision.

    If I were Steam, I’d insert barriers to purchases a Denuvo game. No promotion on the Steam storefront, a warning before purchase, etc.

    EDIT: I thought Denuvo was KLAC for a second. Please disregard this entire reply.