• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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    12 hours ago

    I hope Australian kids annoy adults enough that this moral panic about social media dies from adults just giving up because kids resort to even more annoying behavior, that would be poetic justice.

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      Moral panic? Dude, social media is a fucking scourge. It’s not some 80s Satanic panic bullshit. It seriously hurts kids.

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          I get your point, but it’s not some GOTCHA, like you think it is. I’m an adult and Lemmy doesn’t use algorithms to instill emotions or push ads. It also is moderated as to where hate speech is less likely. You can go on Meta products and make comments about gassing Jews, calling blacks monkeys, and so on.

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            In my opinion, algorithms and dark patterns in social media need to be destroyed. Any of us who remember early social media will remember it not being anywhere near as bad as the monstrosity it has evolved into today.

            Instagram was quite fun when it had a reputation for being a “hipster” platform and before Facebook bought it and absolutely butchered it, for example. Now it’s genuinely horrible.

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              Fuck man, I’m old enough to remember Facebook was exclusively posts by my friends. Shit has come a long way.

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                Yup. I’d log in, scroll for maybe 10-15 posts before I saw the first one from yesterday, play some Wild Ones, and that was that.

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              Couldn’t agree more. Social media isn’t the problem, sure. The hyper aggressive algorithms that most of them use are extremely harmful to individuals and society.

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                I think most people agree but when we slip into trashing social media as a concept and lose the nuance I get concerned.

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            Ok so sounds like the problem isn’t actually social media then?

            Rather it is a question of the choices we make about the architecture and design of social media.

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              Well, duh. That’s the problem. That’s what I’m saying. That’s like saying beer doesn’t cause alcoholism, the alcohol in it does. You’re being pedantic.

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                  Every teenager, edgelord and redditor (but I repeat myself) thinks this way. That being some kind of contrarian/devil’s advocate dipshit is some proof or evidence of their mighty intellect.

                  “Oh, but have you thought about this!!! It seems only I am so smart as to have such enlightened thoughts…”

                  Every teenager is the Gotcha-Man and they think they’re unique and novel.

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          Social media is a terrible for us. Me included. It’s addictive - that’s why I’m here. It’s even worse for kids as it fucks up their social skills development. And we have the power to help them avoid it, just like we were lucky enough to grow up before it. Once they’re old enough they can then choose to fuck them selves up, like they can with alcohol, weed, porn, etc.

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            Social media is a terrible for us. Me included. It’s addictive - that’s why I’m here.

            If that is how you feel I encourage you to start from a position of curiosity about what draws you here beyond a simple thought terminating comparison to an addictive physical substance or our sex drive.

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          This is a forum.

          Forums and blogs could be classed as social media, but they predate widespread use of the term, and are fundamentally different from the corporate social platforms.

          It’s the combination of an individualized engagement algorithm and user-generated content that defines modern social media.

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            It’s the combination of an individualized engagement algorithm and user-generated content that defines modern social media.

            This is precisely what is supercharging this moral panic, people don’t automatically think critically about this and will bandwagon on social media = bad because it feels righteous and is easy unless WE force a more nuanced conversation.