Life expectancy doubled during Maoism. People starved because millions routinely starved in China as a preindustrial country. Compare starvation in China with that of India during Maoism, and you’ll see the tens if not hundreds of millions of lives communism saved against the alternative.
So what? Your core moral values are fucked if you think thats the case. You must look at what’s happening in American as completely ok because from Trumps point of view the end justifies the means.
If we apply that kind of logic it allows people in power to do whatever crazy action they want in as long as they are in pursuit of a “good” goal.
How’s Maoism comparable to Trumpism? Maoism reinforced women’s rights compared to what came before, reinforced worker’s rights, kickstarted industrialization, defeated fascism in China (both the Kuomintang and Imperial Japan), freed China from colonialism, and doubled life expectancy. It wasn’t perfect for sure, but any political alternatives at the time were measurably worse by any metric.
The first four words of my comment were “I’m no Maoist” quite clearly signaling that I don’t affiliate myself with Maoism.
The rest of my comment was in reference to Mao’s Land Reform Movement (i.e. those oh-so famous landlord killing memes). You’re thinking about Mao’s Cultural Revolution and The Great Leap Foward which were separate incidents that did, indeed, kill and starve many innocent people. Mao was tyrant and despot but no one, absolutely no one, missed the landlords. Well, maybe, expect the ones that fled to Daddy Chiang.
This goes beyond not liking a Swedish finance app. This is about the dystopian absurdity of financing your rent payment. It sounds like a plot point from a William Gibson novel. You’re borrowing money, that you’ll have to pay back with interest, to have a roof over your head; a roof that is not even yours. Klarna would very happy to lend you that money so they can profit from debt and the landlord(s) will be happy because they’re still making money without providing value. You don’t have be Marxist to see why this is a problem.
i dont affiliate myself with Mao but here is why murdering land lords was actually a good thing.
Bro read the history trying to defend that is gross.
It seems you hate the american lack of welfare not Klarna. Unless your issue is that poor people have access to credit? I think thats their right and it would be fucked to deny them that. If we compare the situation with klarna vs without they miss their rent payment.
Even in countries where you lose your job and the government gives you money and pays your rent these people would still spend irresponsibly and get into debt.
I’m no Maoist but those ‘land reforms’ are starting to sound pretty good right now.
Hell yeah killing millions of innocent people and starving 50 million more because you dont like a Swedish finance app
Life expectancy doubled during Maoism. People starved because millions routinely starved in China as a preindustrial country. Compare starvation in China with that of India during Maoism, and you’ll see the tens if not hundreds of millions of lives communism saved against the alternative.
So what? Your core moral values are fucked if you think thats the case. You must look at what’s happening in American as completely ok because from Trumps point of view the end justifies the means.
If we apply that kind of logic it allows people in power to do whatever crazy action they want in as long as they are in pursuit of a “good” goal.
How’s Maoism comparable to Trumpism? Maoism reinforced women’s rights compared to what came before, reinforced worker’s rights, kickstarted industrialization, defeated fascism in China (both the Kuomintang and Imperial Japan), freed China from colonialism, and doubled life expectancy. It wasn’t perfect for sure, but any political alternatives at the time were measurably worse by any metric.
The first four words of my comment were “I’m no Maoist” quite clearly signaling that I don’t affiliate myself with Maoism.
The rest of my comment was in reference to Mao’s Land Reform Movement (i.e. those oh-so famous landlord killing memes). You’re thinking about Mao’s Cultural Revolution and The Great Leap Foward which were separate incidents that did, indeed, kill and starve many innocent people. Mao was tyrant and despot but no one, absolutely no one, missed the landlords. Well, maybe, expect the ones that fled to Daddy Chiang.
This goes beyond not liking a Swedish finance app. This is about the dystopian absurdity of financing your rent payment. It sounds like a plot point from a William Gibson novel. You’re borrowing money, that you’ll have to pay back with interest, to have a roof over your head; a roof that is not even yours. Klarna would very happy to lend you that money so they can profit from debt and the landlord(s) will be happy because they’re still making money without providing value. You don’t have be Marxist to see why this is a problem.
Bro read the history trying to defend that is gross.
It seems you hate the american lack of welfare not Klarna. Unless your issue is that poor people have access to credit? I think thats their right and it would be fucked to deny them that. If we compare the situation with klarna vs without they miss their rent payment.
Even in countries where you lose your job and the government gives you money and pays your rent these people would still spend irresponsibly and get into debt.
Found the landlord apologist lol
Yeah people shouldnt be murdered for owning property crazy take I know.
i just want to shoot sparrows okay
Americans aren’t doing exactly that right now to Palestinians.
Did you mean to say Isrealis?