• Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 hours ago

    Let’s be honest. It wasn’t because of any leftist that she lost. It’s because she is a woman of color. Racism and misogyny is very well alive and has power in the USA. If they put another white man with the exact some politics then trump would have lost. Everyone wants to argue over silly points missing the clear truth of how backwards and messed up the USA still is.

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      6 hours ago

      Three female senators won in swing states Kamala lost (Wisconsin, Nevada, Michigan), a Hispanic man won a fourth (Arizona), while white men lost in Pennsylvania and Ohio. Biden also was polling poorly when he dropped out.

      I don’t know why I bother making that point because the response is invariably “Well people are just sexist/racist about the position of president” limiting the data set to one single point (two if you include Clinton, though probably not three because Obama doesn’t count). In this way, all conflicting evidence is shut out.

      It’s just a way to avoid any actually useful critique of the Democrats’ platform, to shift blame to the voters rather than looking at what could actually be improved upon, because that might make somebody look bad. Which is ironic, because I seem to recall that one reason Harris refused to distance herself from Biden in any way (which contributed to her loss) was wanting to protect his “legacy.”

      The truth is that Kamala Harris was a bad candidate with bad political instincts running a bad strategy. She never would’ve even been the nominee if there’d been a real primary. She went all in on Dick Cheney of all people who virtually no one, right or left, actually likes, while she completely alienated anyone who was pro-Palestine when it would’ve cost her nothing to pretend to care and the hardcore Zionists weren’t going to vote for her anyway. She doubled down on Biden’s economic policy and ran on more of the same despite the fact that people’s groceries had gotten more expensive. All of those things played a bigger role in her loss than her race or gender, and until we acknowledge that, we’re just gonna keep getting shitty candidates who do the same and lose.

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        4 hours ago

        She was a bad candidate, basically a bad clone of Biden and we can see who won and who didn’t. Americans are not that smart and they only care about the president. Everyone else they vote purely on blue or red lines regardless.

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          5 minutes ago

          Biden only won because of Covid, and the economic conditions made it harder for Kamala. 2024 was always going to be an uphill battle because of inflation, I have no doubts Biden would’ve lost even without the cognitive decline.

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      6 hours ago

      You are working backwards to find the answer you want to just simplify people into being as bad as you want them to be.

      Don’t just take the easy lazy logic or you will dirty yourself too into looking as racist and misogynistic yourself by saying those words aloud for others.

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        4 hours ago

        People will say things like the original comment and completely ignore obama (a black man) won 2008 and 2012, and Hillary won the popular vote in 2016.

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          3 hours ago

          But then it is easier to hate… Why do we have to make it so complicated by acknowledging it isn’t so simple?

          Everyone else is just 100% morally wrong unlike me. 。°(°¯᷄◠¯᷅°)°。