Still using these obsolete Linux commands? They might be popular from the olden days but perhaps it is time to look for alternatives.

  • cecilkorik@piefed.ca
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    19 hours ago

    Not only will I continue to use these commands, when/if they are ever officially removed, I will reimplement them myself because I am that intent on continuing to use them for the rest of my life. In almost all cases, the reasons we still use those commands is because they truly are the best tool for the job, at least from a UI/UX usability point of view.

    And, you can accuse me of being stuck in familiarity and traditional thinking and you’re probably right, but I think the alternatives mentioned are simply garbage UI/UX. Their implementations may be beautiful and perfect under the hood, I don’t care. I will be happy to fully take advantage of that functionality and implementation when I write a wrapper around them to implement the deprecated command line interface instead.

    Also, the article is straight up wrong in some places:

    If you read an old Linux book from before 2010, you’ll find the arp, route and other such networking commands that do not exist in your Linux system anymore. You cannot even install them.

    That is simply not true. They are perfectly installable and work perfectly well. I’m running Debian 13 and it still includes a package for net-tools.

    You will have to pry things like route, scp and ifconfig out of my cold, hands on my cold, dead keyboard. Not going to happen. Period.

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      2 hours ago

      Certainly whoever wrote that didn’t do a lot of distro-hopping. As far as I can tell, Gentoo still includes sys-apps/net-tools in the @system set, meaning that it’s not only installed by default, but it’s quite difficult to remove.

      • cecilkorik@piefed.ca
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        I suspect at least some AI was used in the creation of the article, since it feels like exactly the kind of hallucination an AI would make with the utmost confidence, after fixating on some out of context upvoted post from some potentially ignorant forum-user, but honestly the flood of incorrect slop is so common nowadays it doesn’t even feel worth pitchforking or pointing out anymore. I just fact-check and move on with my life.

    • Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club
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      18 hours ago

      End of story. That settles it. Case closed. No exceptions. That’s final. Consider it settled. It’s non-negotiable. End of discussion. That’s the final word. Nothing more to add. Enough said.