Unless there is strict 3rd party (out of country) quality control or there is financial motivation for proper QA, Chinese electronics are usually trash. The market is flooded with cheap Chinese silicon fakes, which has caused significant price increases to verify legitimate parts. If its not “original” pirated silicon that is the issue, it’s filed off package marking with a shitty re-badge.
You can keep barking that nationalist bullshit, but it doesn’t change the fact that I have to rebuild any equipment that I need at a slight discount and don’t want it to kill me because of a 2 cent savings on a missing ground.
Unlike you, I don’t give a flying fuck about talking shit about another country. It’s the electronics that matter to me, and if you haven’t seen the absolute shit show that is Alibaba, you have your head so deep in the sand you are never going to experience that sweet smell of burning, pirated XT-60 connectors.
I have delt with so many fake parts smuggled into legit supply chains it would make your head spin. This isn’t a “buyer beware” issue: it’s complete lack of respect for anyone else further down the supply chain.
At least stay on-point if you are trying to defend something, FFS.
A response that is actually in context: Considering how expensive it is to build a fab for a component as critical and delicate as RAM, there is incentive to perform proper QA for products released under the original brand. Having a fab fail because of reputation is not likely an option. Rebranding wouldn’t help as modules can be de-capped and the source vendor could still be identified.
The success or failure of this vendor is going to be how well they physically control their bottom tier bins and ensure that any waste product doesn’t get funneled back into the supply chain. With China specifically, it seems the incentives are much higher for that behavior. Again, if you doubt that, I can point you in the direction of thousands of bunk components.
As with any company that is state owned or state backed, the potential security risk is much higher. I am not just pointing directly at one country in this case. Some governments may pose higher risks than others though. (From a security perspective, you would want trojaned components to be as reliable as possible, TBH.)
Unless there is strict 3rd party (out of country) quality control or there is financial motivation for proper QA, Chinese electronics are usually trash. The market is flooded with cheap Chinese silicon fakes, which has caused significant price increases to verify legitimate parts. If its not “original” pirated silicon that is the issue, it’s filed off package marking with a shitty re-badge.
You can keep barking that nationalist bullshit, but it doesn’t change the fact that I have to rebuild any equipment that I need at a slight discount and don’t want it to kill me because of a 2 cent savings on a missing ground.
Unlike you, I don’t give a flying fuck about talking shit about another country. It’s the electronics that matter to me, and if you haven’t seen the absolute shit show that is Alibaba, you have your head so deep in the sand you are never going to experience that sweet smell of burning, pirated XT-60 connectors.
I have delt with so many fake parts smuggled into legit supply chains it would make your head spin. This isn’t a “buyer beware” issue: it’s complete lack of respect for anyone else further down the supply chain.
At least stay on-point if you are trying to defend something, FFS.
And yet, the RAM was tested and did not explode. The point.
A response that is actually in context: Considering how expensive it is to build a fab for a component as critical and delicate as RAM, there is incentive to perform proper QA for products released under the original brand. Having a fab fail because of reputation is not likely an option. Rebranding wouldn’t help as modules can be de-capped and the source vendor could still be identified.
The success or failure of this vendor is going to be how well they physically control their bottom tier bins and ensure that any waste product doesn’t get funneled back into the supply chain. With China specifically, it seems the incentives are much higher for that behavior. Again, if you doubt that, I can point you in the direction of thousands of bunk components.
As with any company that is state owned or state backed, the potential security risk is much higher. I am not just pointing directly at one country in this case. Some governments may pose higher risks than others though. (From a security perspective, you would want trojaned components to be as reliable as possible, TBH.)
No but you see, China good because USA bad.