Found this graph online for anyone who might still be confused. I think this makes it much more clear.

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    Id say biden is center and bernie is left. Bidens policies were often more left than obamas. But its also hard to but them on the same scale that was made for european politics. Biden actually had a few policies which msde trans peoples lifes better while on other fronts supporting policies that would be pretty far right in europe. Europe is generally more economic left while the us is maybe more left socially but idk its quite complicated. Also mamdani isnt on this but same with him. Id say hes center left. Definitely not full left or how trump likes to call him a radical leftist.

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      Being more left wing than a right winger does not make you a centrist.

      The annoying thing here is that there is a relative and an absolute notion of leftism, and it’s really hard to get a good grasp of what actual centrism and actual leftism looks like when your entire context consists of people who consider anything slightly left of full blown fascism “centrist” or even “left wing”.

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      Bernie “both sides” Sanders is left-wing? Hardly. The guy is a sheepdog for grassroots movements that can disrupt the DNC and that’s basically it. Had he had a political career in a country with a welfare state then he’d be busy dismantling it. His foreign policy is right wing. His domestic barely clears.

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      he’s center-left in the context of american politics. his policy positions would basically be in alignment with Germany’s FDP which is centre-right

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        In some respects. The FDP would never subsidize green technologies on such a scale though.

        “We have to be open to all technologies, so strategically advancing those that make sense and aren’t scams would lead to an evil planned economy!”

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          funny thing is, it wasn’t even all that subsidized

          some grants and a tax break, the next administration eliminated that practically overnight