• johncandy1812@lemmy.caEnglish
    1·
    60 分钟前

    “You see we really wanna turn Gaza into a resort. We don’t want Iran to spoil this business venture.”

  • Gammelfisch@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    1 小时前

    That is why public or state run universities should have their tuition fees paid through taxes instead of military service. If you decide to attend a private university, you are on your own.

  • Pajonk@szmer.infoEnglish
    12·
    1 天前

    It’s always the same story.

    Imperialism, and blindly following authoritarian regimes. To end this evil, we need to get rid of authoritarian regimes, support freedom, free independent press, and thinking instead of following what’s done in the government.

    We can replace the USA flag with Israel one, or the one from Russia, or China, or one of many other countries that are exploiting Africa. Sad but true.

    I wish to all the authoritarian countries to start revolution and get rid of the oligarchs. USA, ruSSia, Israel, China, and many many others. Without the revolution, humanity will fall.

    lame me, I posted critical memes on Lemmy, I did all I could!

    • wpb@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 小时前

      Oh shit, China invaded a country too? Which one? It really is WWIII

  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
    45·
    2 天前

    Don’t blame me, I posted critical memes on Lemmy, I did all I could!

    Edit: I have some mixed feelings about this comment. Let’s cut the snark and actually think about what we can do to stop this madness. I hope everyone is checking in with their local orgs to see what actions can be taken.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
        18·
        2 天前

        Americans are also a victim of it. But we do have more agency (and thus responsibility) in reducing its harms.

        I will note however that there is probably something that can be done from anywhere in the world. We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.

        • reddit_sux@lemmy.worldEnglish
          19·
          2 天前

          You vote in a fascist or let one in and the blame the world. You all deserve to be the victim and shunned by everyone.

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
            21·
            2 天前

            “Let one in”

            What do you think I, personally, should have done to stop Trump that I did not do?

            I get you’re angry but this is a braindead political analysis. The US is a highly undemocratic country. Very few people wanted this to happen.

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              2·
              1 天前

              I can only speak to the person who posted this meme and made the headline blaming people who voted for Kamala

              • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
                2·
                1 天前

                Yeah I thought the headline was silly as well. I’m not sure what Kamala has to do with soldiers murdering people today. Maybe she normalized it with her positions and statements but she’s never had particularly much influence over any US military actions, and people who voted for her had even less.

                • agentant (He/Him)@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  2·
                  22 小时前

                  The point being made is that a lot of Democrat voters limit their action to simply voting Democratic and lying by claiming the Democrats are lesser war-hawks, when historically both parties are fundamentally the same in perpetrating death globally. The post title is mocking the soldier in them using “I voted for Kamala” as a defense for his actions, i.e. I didn’t want this to happen so I voted democrat. Also, the joke could be taken further as a “Just following orders” theme, given the soldier voted against this and didn’t want it to happen, but still committed the war crime as ordered.

        • Salamence@mander.xyzOPEnglish
          17·
          2 天前

          You can say whatever you want to try to dilute and deflect any criticism, but to us outside the empire, we simply can watch the news to see who is the real problem

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
            14·
            2 天前

            What criticism? You can’t even criticize me because you know nothing about me lol

            I already acknowledged Americans have a responsibility to stop this so I don’t even know what your objection is.

            • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
              13·
              2 天前

              What criticism? You can’t even criticize me because you know nothing about me lol

              You’re replying pretty defensively to a meme criticizing American troops. If it’s not about you, then there was no need to reply.

              • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
                9·
                2 天前

                I’m just making a statement about slacktivism. I don’t have a problem with criticizing American troops.

                • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  10·
                  2 天前

                  OK, thanks for explaining. But this is a meme comm, so people post memes on it. It’s not a place where you can engage in real activism, that’s not what it’s for.

        • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
          14·
          2 天前

          Victim of American empire:

          Dont blame me, im one of the victims of your fascist empire

          (Presumably) American:

          We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.

          Are you kidding?

          • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
            12·
            2 天前

            Everyone wants to play the victim. No one wants to do the hard work to protect the victims. Human nature.

            But whining about it online doesn’t change shit. I guarantee you the real victims aren’t here on Lemmy.

            • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
              12·
              2 天前

              Everyone wants to be a victim. No one wants to do the hard work to protect the victims. Human nature.

              But whining about it online doesn’t change shit.

              Are you kidding me? What do you know about Salamence’s life, situation, or actions? What gives you the right to lecture like this?

              • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
                11·
                2 天前

                The fact that they’re lecturing us from the same position lol. That’s what made me want to comment in the first place.

                But it’s fine, I was trying to get past that with my edit calling for everyone to work together. But I guess as usual leftists working together proves impossible. Big part of why the world is so shit.

                • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  10·
                  2 天前

                  The fact that they’re lecturing us from the same position lol. That’s what made me want to comment in the first place.

                  the same position

                  Salamence:

                  Dont blame me, im one of the victims of your fascist empire

                  Clearly not the same position. You assumed the person posting was in the same position, which was incorrect.

                  But it’s fine, I was trying to get past that with my edit calling for everyone to work together. But I guess as usual leftists working together proves impossible. Big part of why the world is so shit.

                  Solidarity is good. But people in the imperial core can’t expect solidarity if they don’t give it.

                • Salamence@mander.xyzOPEnglish
                  7·
                  2 天前

                  calling for everyone to work together

                  Really? From this reply you made clear what you want is to share the blame

                  We live in an interconnected world. The fascist empire exists in part because the world allows it to.

  • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
    24·
    2 天前

    This is funny and insightful because soldiers of lefty governments never kill innocent civilians. /s Gawd this campist garbage is braindead. This would be a great comic for a pacifist sub, but what’s it got to do with leftism?

      • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
        11·
        2 天前

        Am I really? No, I am annoyed that leftism is being hijacked by nationalistic idiocy. Criticize the US military all you want, but if I can slap the name of literally any other country on the same cartoon, the criticism isn’t exactly pointed. (or interesting)

          • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
            11·
            2 天前

            I made my criticism clear. Having no answer to that criticism, you assumed a motivation that didn’t exist and attacked that.

            • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
              18·
              2 天前

              I made my criticism clear.

              You’re here crying that someone criticized ameriKKKan soldiers for being monsters and your justification is that other soldiers do it too.

              midwest.social

              “And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?” Your fascist empire is destroying the world, yankee. Don’t go crying when people take offense to that.

              • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
                5·
                2 天前

                I’m not crying and have no problem with criticisms of US troops or US military actions. This particular criticism is dumb as fuck though.

                • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
                  14·
                  2 天前

                  I’m not crying and have no problem with criticisms of US troops or US military actions.

                  Except when people make them, then you get angry and say things like…

                  This particular criticism is dumb as fuck though.

                  This particular criticism is mocking the common excuse americans will give for why they have no choice but to sign up to murder innocent people: “I just wanted to pay for college”. The point is that it doesn’t make a difference to the victims. It’s a good point.

    • TerranFenrir@lemmy.caEnglish
      12·
      2 天前

      And surely no “leftist” is going to get incredibly mad when I say:

      “Authority breeds violence. Death to all authority, states being the best example of them. Death to states, of which the US is the most powerful and most destructive.”

      I’m sure no “leftist” is instead going to propose creation of a “leftist state”, employ exsoldiers of the previous capitalist state and then justify war crimes by those soldiers under the name of “liberation”.

        • TerranFenrir@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          38 分钟前

          Not possible. However, progressive erosion of authority is essential. So many MLs here like to defend authoritarianism by their favorite parties in situations where it went against the publicly believed goals of the revolution(s).

      • LeninWeave [they]@lemmy.mlEnglish
        8·
        2 天前

        This is a left unity comm, not an anarchist comm. Different opinions on the nature and purpose of the state are allowed and expected.

        • TerranFenrir@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          52 分钟前

          “Red bourgeoisie are better than blue bourgeoisie” is contradictory with the goal of achieving a stateless, classless society.

      • cloudskater@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        5·
        2 天前

        So I’m not against what you’re saying (and maybe I’m taking the bate here) but are you implying anarchy is the only way to be free? If so, why use the term “leftist” at all, as it encompasses many ideologies, of which anarchism is one?

        • TerranFenrir@lemmy.caEnglish
          1·
          55 分钟前

          Existence of authority is a direct contradiction of freedom. So anything except for total anarchy = not complete freedom.

          That being said, complete anarchy is akin to machine with 100% efficiency. Amazing, but very difficult (almost impossible) to make. So do I believe that we must start by blowing up all forms of authority on day one? No. Many anarchists that I’ve met believe this. Most I’ve met reject the idea of democracy (again, because it’s the majority “ruling” over the minority). This is why I won’t call myself an anarchist.

          I don’t associate with any leftist subgroups enough that I would want to associate with them. Sure, I feel ideologically closer to some than others, but again, not enough to consider myself part of them. This is the explanation for my usage of the broad term “leftist”.

          Also, i was responding to the comment above, attempting to mirror their comment to convey my message. The above commentator was very likely a ML. I’ve observed these folk on Lemmy to have a habit of criticising imperialism, greed, warmongering and so on when the countries they hate do it, but absolutely cheering it on when the reds do it. It’s really annoying, that’s all.