• cmbabul@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      An argument could’ve been made that Trump was worse domestically because ICE but Bush was worse internationally because Iraq/Afghanistan. I don’t think that argument will hold any water by the time Trump is no longer president.

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      8 hours ago

      Better than Trump? Bush was absolutely and in every way a better president than Trump.

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        Bush invaded Iraq without a contingency plan. Threw away any credibility the US had as a serious country. Handed it over to Iran-linked militias, saw the Sunni side create IS in the north… Drew away resources from Afhganistan because he needed to distract the voters in 2003.

        Sure Trump is a total clown but in comparison he’s done far less damage

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          3 hours ago

          Bush also created PEPFAR and saved more than 20 million lives in Africa.

          Trump dismantled PEPFAR, and that alone will cost something like 15 times more lives than Bush’s unjust wars.

          Bush was not a good president, but saying he’s worse than Trump is just ridiculous.

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          7 hours ago

          Agreed. Bush soars over it.

          First there’s the base level of competence. He wasn’t actively making everyone worse, every day.

          I’m not disregarding all the terrible things he did, but he also did a non-zero number of good things.

          Between him and Trump, it’s not close.

          • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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            First there’s the base level of competence. He wasn’t actively making everyone worse, every day.

            Yes he absolutely was.