Computer scientists are campaigning against the global march toward age checks online.
Only age check I would accept is on device, if I am 100% the data is encrypted and stored on device.
ok, everyone, set your age to be 69. if everyone is 69 no one is 69.
I wish parents would just step up and take responsibility for their own children instead of making the rest of society deal with it
Why has it suddenly become a problem now, 35 years after the advent of the web, and 43 years after the advent of the modern internet? This isn’t about kids.
Because it takes time to realize the effects of new technologies. Doubly so when money is preventing research into those effects. Its not a conspiracy.
It’s never about kids.
It’s not the parents, but governments using ‘protecting the children’ as an excuse to push internet surveillance laws.
Yes, I know. I was being facetious lol
Meanwhile, said parents are both taking second jobs to afford rent.
Sadly, not enough do, they prefer someone else be to blame, my gfs eldest daughter does do this with her son. Limited screen time, monitored PC in the family room with the screen visible. When she finally lets him run fully free online he will be mature enough to deal with the bs out there, we hope. If more parents did this the “Protect the Children” fallacy would be taken for what it is, surveillance, data mining, and control.
I don’t think parents, most of who have a job and don’t keep their kids under surveillance 24/7, can hope to compete with dozens of corporations with whole teams dedicated to making their platform addictive. I view the parental responsibility in the same way I view carbon footprints: a way to shift blame from corporations to individuals. I think this view also leads to individual-focused solutions that surveil people (age checks, etc) rather than systemic ones that regulate corporations.
Agreed. They need to direct their ire toward the corporations instead of my (and everyone else’s) freedoms.
I said this somewhere else, but I was just being facetious. I think it’s funny to turn the conservative mentality against conservative movements lol
This has literally never happened a single time in all of human history.
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Shortening computer scientists to just scientists feels… Wrong
Why?
Probably because a good chunk of “computer scientists” are actually engineers. I say this as a computer scientist in the engineering college of my school
Most computer scientists have very limited expertise, none of which concerns human society. We might as well survey plumbers for their opinions.
Fun fact: did you know that the average CS major scores worse on reading and writing than a business major?
Imagine that level of cognitive decrepitude.
Who hurt you lmao
In all seriousness, there should be a control for liberal arts education. Computer Science is a specialized and rigorous field. If it’s taught as the sole subject of a person’s education, of course they are going to miss a lot compared to a degree in the arts. Meanwhile, as a computer science student at a liberal arts college, I’d wager I can communicate just fine.
Further, this chart feels disingenuous here due to your use of it to seemingly attempt justifying a cause-effect relationship where only correlation exists. Of course Computer Science students perform poorly in reading and writing compared to Philosophy and English majors. People who like reading and writing gravitate towards those majors, so they naturally will have a higher population of good communicators. The real issue is the failure of primary education in its attempt to train the general populace to read and write with any reasonable level of proficiency.
Also, since when are reading and writing the test of a person’s cognitive function? Some of the most genuinely intelligent people I know couldn’t write a good analytical essay if their life depended on it. Everyone has different strengths; for Computer Scientists, those just happen to be mathematics and deterministic logic instead of interpersonal communication. I don’t get where the hate is coming from.
P.S. I’d read the study but the image is too low-res to make out the URL
The same could be said of sociologists and plumbers. Sociologists know about people and society, plumbers know about plumbing, and computer scientists know about computers.
With a topic of computers and society, like this one, they each have insight on the situation. I would hope getting them in a room together would lead to solutions less harmful than what’s been proposed thus far.
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What about cognitive understanding because those are very specific fields that logically wouldn’t be the strong focal points for cs professionals compared to the other professionals in the chats?.
Do you read what you write?
cognitive understanding
as opposed to noncognitive understanding? Wtf are you talking about?
Do you have a source for
Most computer scientists have very limited expertise, none of which concerns human society
Do I have a source for the fact that computer scientists have no specialized training on topics outside of computer science? (In addition to being apparently illiterate on average, which is what their performance on the GRE implies.)
Fascinating question. Have an upvote.
