• orc girly@lemmy.ml
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    China is helping with intelligence and software as well. Iran wouldn’t be able to survive without China, like it or not.

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      The top brass of the Iranian military getting wiped out in a single strike suggests China is not doing a very good job at that.

      Chinese satalite footage is useful, but besides that the war is basically all Iran solo with their own missiles and drones.

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        What do you expect China to do? Enter the war? Iranian attacks wouldn’t be this effective without China, and China helped them get rid of Mossad operatives.

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          Better anti air defenses would have been cool. Or those hypersonic anti ship missiles.

          There was a lot of talk of Chinese weapons systems but all we’re seeing is Shaheds and Iranian domestic missiles.

          Meanwhile NATO is sending troops and weapons from every country including the European ones. And they even participate in intercepting Iranian missiles. Looks like Capitalist international solidarity is far superior.

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            There was a lot of talk of Chinese weapons systems but all we’re seeing is Shaheds and Iranian domestic missiles.

            Both of these are made using materials from China. Rocket fuel precursor and duel use drone components (also SAM components which seem to have had some luck downing Israeli drones).

            Or those hypersonic anti ship missiles.

            Iran are using their old stock they haven’t even started using their own hypersonic FATTAH-1s what makes you think they’d bring out the even more advanced Chinese stock they might have?

            Meanwhile NATO is sending troops and weapons from every country including the European ones. And they even participate in intercepting Iranian missiles. Looks like Capitalist international solidarity is far superior.

            Almost like when the current hegemon and it’s vassal’s have nuclear weapons and they decide to take direct action against non nuclear powers MAD makes it near impossible for rival nuclear powers to step in personally.

            Please don’t take this the wrong way I’m not trying to call you out or any of that nonsense, but from the 2 of your posts where we’ve had brief interactions it feels like you have a set outcome in mind (China bad) and are twisting yourself in knots to to reach that point irrespective of facts or material reality.

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            The issue with their anti air defenses is that radars can be destroyed, and they were, so they can’t intercept the attacks easily anymore. Iran understood this and that’s why it prepared for an evacuation from the beginning. I’m unaware of radars being able to be underground and effective, considering the US radars were also very exposed (and subsequently bombed by Iran). If you know of tech that China could have deployed there for this specific use case then I’d love to learn more, I’m not a military expert by any means.

            There was a lot of talk of Chinese weapons systems but all we’re seeing is Shaheds and Iranian domestic missiles.

            Iran said they’re first using their older missiles, give them time and they’ll use the ones from China.

            Looks like Capitalist international solidarity is far superior.

            Capitalists won’t be held accountable while they’re the hegemon or vassals to the hegemon. I don’t wanna be overly optimistic, but that might change soon enough if they keep making irrational decisions like the current war against Iran.