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    Liberals are not conservative. They are against misogyny, bigotry,racism.

    So right-wing Female supremacists, Trans supremacists and Afro-supremacists.
    That’s your problem there.

    If all of them are complacent with rampant problems in liberal democracies like:

    • Campaign fraud
    • Worker exploitation
    • Imperialist propaganda
    • Bribes
    • Blackmail
    • Inside trading
    • Usury
    • Private gambling institutions
    • Landlords
    • Consumer good poisoning
    • Monopolized rent consumer goods

    Then THEY’RE NOT LEFT-WING!

    And the US hasn’t had a left-wing party, not even a social democratic one, since the 1990s,
    as social democratic parties only seem to thrive if there’s a socialist nation to look up to
    and the Soviet Union fell apart as it lacked resources (coal) to do anything against the US petrodollar scheme,
    That’s why Bill Clinton had been called a Repubic-lite during his reign
    and Obama never delivered on his “Hope & Change”.

    The only semi-left-wing ideas I see coming from US contemporaries “progressives”,
    is that they’re pro-green, because that at least will help people have the resources to go left in the future.

    The right stands for a ruling merchant class and a gatekeeping judicial class.
    The judicial class has noble ideas for itself as a ruling class,
    but they need campaign money in order to be elected as a ruler,
    which the merchant class has in spades, but want their favorable laws for them to be implemented in return.
    And thus the merchant class becomes the ruling class and the judicial class their gatekeepers.
    That’s what the right-wing stands for, unless they’re even more regressive
    and long for a kings and priests to rule over them.

    Centrists, social democratic wing like FDR, try to curb the power of the merchant class,
    but a true left wing will replace it with a ruling engineering class and gatekeeping scholar class that will replace liberal democracy with a people’s democracy that can focus on creating a classless society,
    because only a people’s democracy can tackle the issue of campaign fraud,
    which is systemic in a liberal democracy.
    And this systemic problem becomes larger and larger the more a society automates
    as it causes the power of merchants to be more and more concentrated.

    The US democratic party is only slowly returning to become a social democratic party
    with Zohran Mamdami firmly in the democratic socialist side.

    But looking from the outside, the US is like the Star Control II Ur-Quan alien race, where the US democratic party plays the role of the Kzer-za that wants the rest of the world/galaxy enslaved and the US republican party playing the role of the bloodthirsty Kohr-Ah that wants the rest of the world dead. The only thing missing in the US is a civil war between the two.

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      Any supremacist is not, by it’s very definition of being discriminating, liberal.

      Liberal is against bigotry of any kind. That’s a core foundation. It supports equality.

      Why are you under the impression that only white racist are alt right and all other kinds are liberals?

      That’s not how that works.

      You can hate whites. Mexicans. Jews. Men, etc. Any support of group discrimination is right wing by its definition because liberals specifically is against bigotry.

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        It’s fun watching you define liberalism out of existence. You’ve already made it so the Democrats and their supporters aren’t liberal by your own definition

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        My formative childhood years were spent listening to “good, non-bigoted” liberals talk about “killing terrorists” who “hate democracy” because of their “tribal culture”.

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            No, the Republicans were simply repeating the phrase “glass the middle east” with their eyes rolled back in ecstasy. Compared to that, the Victorian-era racism of liberals trying to bring civilization spread democracy got a pass for sounding slightly less hitlerian. This dynamic may sound familiar

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        Liberalism can claim to stand for whatever, it’s still a fact that liberal governments participated in wars, invasions, regime change operations, economic warfare, genocide.

        Liberalism obscures the systemic nature of problems by focusing on and promoting Individualist ideals. The reason liberalism is in crisis is that it doesn’t work, not that it’s not implemented correctly.