Not the previous poster.

A simple ESP8266 module from AliExpress is less than $4 (an ESP12F module - which is the FCC certified one with most I/O ports available - is $2), can be programmed with Arduino, has WiFi and that is more than enough for wireless home automation peripherals that are not supposed to do lots of processing (it will still easilly fit a REST interface for automated control and even a web interface for user control alongside it).

That said, in order to power it unless you can somehow draw 3.3v from the device it’s attached to, you actually need more parts and that’ll add up to more than $4 unless you’re doing it with batteries (and design and assemble your own voltage regulator circuit which is not that hard and is cheap, or maybe get a slightly more expensive ESP module that comes with voltage regulation) - this works fine if your device sleeps most of the time and just wakes up once in a while to check some data from a server holding instructions for it. For an always one device, best IMHO to use a 3.3V wall power adaptor, which will cost at least $6 from AliExpress.

The power considerations apply exactly the same for ESP32s.

Exactly.

My first personal e-mail way back in the 90s was with my ISP. Then I changed ISPs and saw the problem with that. So I moved to Yahoo.

Some years later, in the 00s I just decided to get my own, paid for, Internet domain and have my e-mail there, even though I could’ve carried on using Yahoo or get Google Mail (very popular amongst techies back then) for free. The main reason was that I realized I must made sure the e-mail address was MINE, not actually owned by somebody else with me allowed to use it under their conditions.

Twenty years later and guess it was pretty wise to not have my e-mail in the claws of “Definitelly Do Evil” Google.

Experience using and living with Tech, mainly once your understanding of it reaches the level of understanding systemic elements, naturally informs ones choices in Tech, and that often means chosing something else than the mass marketed “popular” stuff that’s designed to lock you in, sell you stuff or sell your attention to others and eavesdrop on you and sell your data.

I’m making the bet that if the government changes, I will have time to adapt. (Yes, I could be wrong.)

The thing with data is that once it’s out, it’s out.

If tomorrow whatever you do today starts getting deemed a perversion or even a crime, the data related to you doing sent out today will at the very least put you at the front of the list of people to be investigated for it.

Best to have as little as possible about me and my activities (no matter how innocent) out there in an easy to access form, IMHO. If I have to trade a bit of convenience for it, so be it.

I’m an European (specifically from an EU country). I was born still in a Dictatorship, before the Revolution which brought Democracy, and I grew up hearing the stories of Censorship and the Political Police arresting people for criticizing the local Dictator.

I don’t know who your “we” is, but it sure as hell ain’t me or most of my countrymen.

A mandatory Government app on your phone is the kind of thing that rings alarm bells in people’s minds around here because it stinks of Dictatorship and is a wet dream come true for a Political Police.

I lived elsewhere in Europe, so I can understand that people in countries which have long been stable and Democratic (say, The Netherlands and all of Scandinavia), have no memory of Authoritarianism and think that the Authorities only ever act for the greater good (which is why, for example, Swedes have zero concerns about every single payment they do ending up in a database), but pretty much everbody from Southern and Eastern Europe have either direct memories or heard the stories of just how bad the Authorities can be and just how bad it is to let them know what you’re doing.

Clearly, if you’re really from Europe (and not just a paid propagandist or troll), you’re not from one of those countries which freed themselves from some dictatorship or other recently enough for most people in that country having themselves or their parents been alive during the dictatorship days.

One thing is some kind of passive ID, be it in a card or in digital format, another very different thing is software running on your devices which is capable of automatically reporting to the authorities everything you do.

As the US is showing right now, it doesn’t take much to go from absolutelly legit activity - say having an abortion - and innocent apps with some kind of “phone home” ability - say something to help women track their periods - doing no harm to anybody, to extreme prison sentences (for murder, even) and said apps being used to catch and prosecute women for it.

Anybody who has even just heard the stories from their parents and grandparents about whatever the version of the Stasi in their country used to do in the Dictatorship days would be profoundly against any “report to the authorities” software even if it’s sold by politicians as “think of the children”.

If this is not the most crooked EU Comission ever, it’s a pretty close second.

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FYI, the actual circuit properly designed is stupidly simple:

• The 5V and Ground power lines come in from USB on dedicated pins
• Since that’s a USB-C connector you need 2x resistors for it CC lines (they let the USB Host on the other side know that something is connected to it and wants power of a certain maximum current, and to figure out the orientation of the cable since it can be plugged in two orientations)
• To light the LED you need the actual LED and a resistor that limits the current that goes to the LED (since LEDs themselves don’t limit it and without external current limitation they’ll just light up very brightly and then release some “magic smoke” and stop working)

That’s it.

Now, assuming R3 and R4 are properly connect CC line resistors (though WHY THE FUCK are the two lines of R3 routed on the other side of the board!!?), the only two other things needed are R1 and D1, nothing else.

Instead, there are way too many extra components, most notably this thing on the middle, supposedly a microchip (judging by the “U” code, can’t see the actual writting in the device), maybe a voltage regulator but what would be the point!?

Worse, all 3 legs of that U1 device are wired together. If we’re really really lucky, they go nowhere. Otherwise at least one ends up connected to a Ground line (ultimatelly coming from USB) and the other to a power (most likely the 5V from USB) - in other words, it’s a short circuit of the power from USB. Not, just not good, but actually a seriously bad “I’ve never touched electronics in my life” mistake: there is literally no topology where the 3 pins of a 3-pin component are wired together like that, since electrically that’s the same as not having it there at all (so even if connected to something else than 5V + GND, at best that component would never do anything). This is like something you figure out in the first hour of learning Electronics.

This shit is not just a little bad, it’s incredibly bad and probably a danger to connect to anything over USB.

I’m a Generalist (mainly because I’m challenge-driven) - even in my own professional area (Software Engineering) I’ve worked in all sorts of domains over the years, and I’ve also really went down deep in other very different directions (Embedded Systems in Electronics, Acting, 3D modelling, plus countless “just playing around” areas into which I did not spend years of my life).

In my experience, the “problem” of starting to do something that you don’t really know well is that it takes at least a year of constantly doing that kind of thing, more often two to even start doing it properly.

Oh, yeah, in the meanwhile after the initial “zero to hero” stage you’re quickly in the phase were you ride the peak of the Dunning-Krugger curve on that subject, thinking you’re really DOING IT. If you do persists doing that kind of thing you eventually figure out that you actually know very little of it - this cartoon is exactly somebody at that later stage: done it long enough that they have figured out how amateurish they still are and can now genuinelly judge their playing around for what really is and how much it really costs (the level of awareness of that cartoon character is of somebody entering or in the domain expert stage).

Even knowing how it goes and being very aware of the different speed of growth of the “confidence in one’s knowledge” and “actual knowledge” curves (which together yield the Dunning-Krugger curve), this still happens to me EVERY TIME I go down a new knowledge domain.

So why do it?

Well, if you like challenge and learning, the first couple of years of doing something are a lot of fun: lots of challenges, smaller and simpler projects quickly yielding the rewards of achieving something, a strong felling of progression because you’re learning a ton of things (which later will seem small, but when you do learn them, they feel like big improvements) all the while you feel you’re achiving a lot (the upside of the Dunning-Krugger effect is that results which are basic and amateurish for domain experts, feel like great things to somebody ridding that overconfidence part of the curve).

All this to say that, IMHO, you don’t really derive any monetary value earlier on (it might feel like it’s returning something but if you do the Maths versus other options, you’re lucky to break even on it even if you count your own time as being worth nothing) and you’re not actually learning all that much early on (you’re going to be wasting lots of time and resources doing the wrong things and going back to redo what you did and at best your work yields something slightly flawed and you kinda just accept it and live with the problems) but it certainly FEELs like you are learning a lot.

Personally I recomend it for the fun of it if you have the kind of personality that enjoys learning and the challenge of doing new things, not so much for saving money when doing it yourself vs paying others for it.

It’s the same principle that anchors the idea that you can fix any plumbing problems at home yourself.

This all started with:

A nomadic life can be cheaper than a sedentary one.

To which the previous poster added an example.

I’m pointing out that there are many other common contexts were things don’t at all work like that.

By that “logic” of yours whenever a Western newspaper publishes a story about something that happened elsewhere in the World, it’s “goalpost moving”.

I think you’re confusing your own “I don’t give a shit about people not like me” mindset with the mindset of the entire audience here.

Well, the reason why I also included “typical access to Education” is that for those from countries whose main language isn’t the most often spoken second language in the World, the most common way to learn it is at school.

Try doing that with a passport and the typical access to Education from, say Burkina Faso.

That would require for me to know which carrier would be doing the final leg of the delivery when the package is in my country, which often I don’t and over time there’s even new carriers popping up.

A much simpler solution is to have a second mobile number which I give out for these things which is actually quite easy since I can just use a Pay As You Go SIM.

Might be worth changing the number AliExpress has on archive for me, though by now if the sold or leaked that info, it can’t be undone.

It’s used by the delivery people to contact me if they can’t find the delivery place or I’m not there. Also some of the local delivery companies will, for more expensive things, send the recipient an SMS with a code that you then give to the delivery person so that they know for sure they’re delivering to the right person (or somebody authorized by them).

It’s actually a pretty good way to solve a lot of problems with delivery, but it does mean I need to have a mobile phone number which ends up in the hands of at least two entities.

The less info about you is out there, the less handles they have to pass themselves for those who can legitimatelly ask money from you or which control access to your money, be they family, friends, your bank, the government and so on.

They can’t spoof a family member’s voice if they don’t know who is your family or have access to samples of their voice - both things often obtainable via Facebook and would also be obtainable via a Chinese equivalent one might be tempted to use instead.

Anyways, my point is that Chinese companies are inherently no more trustworthy than American ones, they’re just not as bad yet because they don’t yet have the same access to masses and masses of personal information for people all over the World - once they do, they’ll be just as bad because regulations in China are also shit and they don’t give a damn about foreigners.

Joining in and doing what their enemy is already doing and which they’re been unable to stop, is literally the only way the US and the Trump Administration can claim they’re winning anything in this war.

It’s also pretty much how the Far-Right in at least America and Britain does politics: if civil society momentum builds up in a direction which isn’t at all something they started or even wanted, rush to the front of the crowd and shout “Follow me!”.

The thing is, it doesn’t quite work at swindling people into thinking you’re a great leader when you don’t have a thoroughly captured Press conveniently “forgetting” that they didn’t actually started it and spinning that as “leadership” of and the result as a “victory” for the Far-Right leader.

So at least outside the US and in the context of their war against Iran the whole thing looks incredibly stupid, maybe even derranged, even will the “geniouses” at the White House think this will make America and Trump look like winning.

PS: There is one take which makes them actually seem intelligent (in the kind of “intelligence” a low-level thief would display) - that the actual individuals in the Trump Administration, including Trump himself, are doing it purely to personally profit from front-running Trump’s announcements. This would work but the returns would keep on getting smaller and smaller as the Market stops believing Trump’s words and/or expecting that sufficient people believe them for his words to cause market movements.

In a normal giraffe the neck (and the legs) is long in order to be able to reach the leafs high up on trees, so it makes sense that in a giraffe centaur arms would be at a that would let them use theirs arms to help with that, which would either be higher up or, alternativelly, lower down but long enough that they can both reach the leaves above AND the ground below whilst standing up.

Let me put things this way: after my last AliExpress purchase I was targetted for the first time in my life by a PayPal fishing phone call from India (starting with a pre-recorded message in my native language but then switching to some guy speaking English with an Indian accent).

Somebody I know has been targetted twice by “you package is awaiting at customs” phishing messages after making purchases at AliExpress.

Maybe coincidence, maybe AliExpress is having their trade payment processing ops outsourced to somebody that sells it to people that will use it to fraudulently pass themselves as a natural entity involved in the purchase process (like PayPal or the destination country’s Customs) or maybe AliExpress themselves sell that data. Judging by the amount of outright fraudulent sales claims there (the capacity of any power storage devices is at times hilarious, as is the output wattage of solar panels and storage capacity of external SSDs), my bet is the latter, though if it’s not that totally not giving a shit about the risk of the second possibility is almost a certainty.

That kind of “why should I care” bullshit you’re peddling is exactly the same kind of bullshit that was peddled a decade and a half ago about having one’s e-mail with Google, and look at were we are now.

Unless you’re stupidly isolated from it (not even giving them your e-mail), you’re going to leak stuff that can be used against you, even if only by criminals (and the authorities in China couldn’t give a rat’s arse about their people swindling or stealing from laowai).

Like in the US, it’s going to be “Free Enterprise” abusing data about even if the local authorities don’t really care about you.

For now.

The problem is that once it’s out there, you can’t take it back.