I think this is a YMMV kind of thing because it has always worked for me.

Actually they seem kind of sketchy too. https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk/discussions/2778

From a performance and overall compatibility perspective, does either GNOME or KDE outshine over the other for this?

Not unless you are doing specific things. Last I checked, but I know Gnome is moving on these fronts too. Things like HDR, VRR, Virtual Reality Games and stuff like that you are going to want KDE for. There was probably some other stuff, but that’s what I have off the top of my head. However, if you try Gnome and decide that you really like them. They are making moves on those fronts too, but I’m not sure how long it is going to take.

I tried the flatpak for Zen, but it seem to crash quite a bit. How has your experience been?

I don’t think any Operating System is (dumb)user friendly yet.

This is a great point. It is also an issue that I have with certain (not all) users who try linux. Where when things go wrong in Windows and Mac they have no power to do anything and they just give. If something goes wrong in linux they start yelling, complaining, and sometimes harassing maintainers.

No, not really. I believe it is because a lot of us linux users have more understanding of our systems, so we know why a certain outcome happened vs “it just works ^tm”.

Also I would like to point out something that I have been telling people for years whenever a post like this comes up. Windows and Mac users do the same thing. They constantly overlook bugs, bad design, artificial limitations, and just the overall lack of care when it comes to various details that more community oriented projects cater to. The reason is because of familiarity. Just like many of us will often not see issues with new comers struggles because we have already worked around all of the issues. These users do the same.

As a developer, I have met developers that don’t understand file systems. They could write code and not find it. Like wtf?

Try doing everything you would normally do with a computer and see how you would do it on linux.

I found this in the forum that was linked on the planettwatt.com site. https://planetwatt.com/newforum/index.php?topic=1016.msg3100#msg3100

Didn’t find any source code though.

Those people are completely misinformed then. The OS did not come free. You paid for it. You pay for the license every time you buy a computer. If KDE had that then yeah it would by annoying, but they probably wouldn’t be asking then.

Most places tell you how much you are paying for it. I have to go out of my way to not pay for it since I don’t plan on using windows when I buy a new device.

While I understand where you are coming from. That goes for a lot of projects in general. Not to mention that KDE is literally an example of the thing you are talking about. KDE has an entire ecosystem of libraries that anyone can use called kde frameworks with many examples of these libraries being used on various projects large and small outside of KDE. They don’t see a dime from this either. I recall a conference on TechHut’s youtube channel spotting KDE’s frameworks in the wild being used by companies at the event.

While I absolutely agree with what you are trying to say and donate to kde myself already. The issue with a lot of comments like yours is that the examples you use are almost always commercial software that already only see’s limited use. I get value out of non commerical use applications such as dolphin, kate, konsole, and kdeconnect. Finding examples of popular paid versions of those applications would go a long way in my opinion because it would be something that more people can relate to.

The problem I see with the examples you are giving are the same problems I see when someone uses those examples as reasons why they can’t switch to linux in the first place. And that is the fact that while those programs are popular. They aren’t used by the vast majority of people who don’t have a work related need to use them. Half the people that claim it as an excuse probably don’t actually use those programs as well.

Your examples such as Cyberduc, Elmedia, and BBBedit are your stronger examples. Again just my opinion.

You got the desktop wrong. KDE has fractional scaling. Gnome which the reviewer is using because he is using Ubuntu needs the editing.

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Basically xkcd 538 as always.

I rarely see any comments on any Gnome posts here actually.

I’m excited too and also use KDE. I’m not certain I will ever switch, but like other commenters. I am concerned with how long it may take before I consider it to be usable. Not to mention there are certain really cool features that KDE has that I would like to replicate over there before I even think of switching.

I think we need uncompromising people in this world. Doesn’t mean we have to listen or follow everything they say though. Those are my thoughts on GNU.

As someone who tries to look under the hood for a lot of the open source software I run, one thing that I have noticed is that there are a lot of cases where the general sentiment seems to be port to what. Wayland still doesn’t support a number of things that some applications require. A lot of developers that I have interacted with would rather have the app run through XWayland rather than have a wayland version of the app with less features or certain features grayed out.

In the case of one project in paticular, that being the Sunshine game streaming project. I have personally witnessed. Them implementing a solution for wlroots based compositor. Having that solution eventually break as wlroots based projects deprecate the protocol they were using in favor of a new one and now that protocol is looking like it too is old news and is going to be deprecated in favor of a newer and better protocol. What I am getting at here is that protocols not existing isn’t the only problem, but things are still very much in development. Even applications that implemented wayland support are being put in positions where they need yet another rewrite because things are far from finalized and still moving pretty fast.