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  • DiabolicalBird@lemmy.catolinuxmemes@lemmy.worldGUIs
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    5 days ago

    If we want the year of the Linux desktop to actually happen we need to have good GUI tools for almost everything. The second you say “command line” most people’s eyes glaze over and they say they’ll stick with Windows. Believe it or not guys, most people just want something that functions out of the box and they don’t want to mess with it.





  • It’s always fun when there’s a GUI tool for something (in my case, trying to set up wireguard with gnome) that just doesn’t work, and all the posts online about it just say “yeah that’s literally never worked, here’s the cli command”

    Or colour profiles for your monitor in Wayland, you can change them in the gui but nothing will ever apply.

    I find myself having trust issues with Linux GUI tools as actually functioning seems to be optional. But the switches sure look pretty…


  • From my own experience with Lemmy, I can absolutely see why it’s declining.

    Lemmy is packed full of miserable people constantly calling for violence. 90% of the feed is packed full of US politics, it doesn’t matter how many filters I use I still see that greasy orange cunt’s face every time I open Lemmy.

    The amount of hostility towards outsiders just getting into Lemmy is astounding, and I’ve absolutely seen the whole “quality over quantity” crap that only drives people away from the platform. The IT tech snobbery is also incredibly offputting to people who aren’t tech enthusiests.

    In short, Lemmy has a toxic shithead problem that a platform this small can’t afford if it wants to survive long term.


  • So, your solution to “ease onboarding” is to give newcomers more work? For a platform with far less content that’s already confusing them with just signing up, let alone figuring out transfering or self hosting?

    I think you VASTLY overestimate how many fucks people have to give, and also how tech literate the average person is. The average person can barely figure out how to change their web browser, and most really don’t care about the awful shit big companies do.

    This idea of yours would drive engagement through the floor and a respectable distance into the Earth’s crust.

    Ease of use should be the #1 consideration when it comes to onboarding people to something.





  • I’ve been using Nobara for a long time now, before that I was on Debian, before that Kubuntu. I’ve tried both Wayland and X11 on Nobara until they fully switched to Wayland, they both had issues.

    I tried several variations on getting a dock to work, but even organizing the top bar or editing any of the panels at all was causing glitches and crashes. After a certain point I said fuck it and tried Gnome, my problems went away and it only took a few extensions to get it where I wanted. Been more stable since the switch so I haven’t been inclined to go back myself.



  • I tried version 6 last, the customization kept crashing the desktop, it didn’t like me messing with the panels at all. I just wanted a top bar and a dock.

    I’ve recently installed the latest version for my fiance who is transitioning from Windows. Immediately there was a small problem with the app menu leaving graphical artifacts on the panel when the menu got closed (it was fixed by increasing the animation speed a bunch somehow?).

    After a certain point I gave up and moved on, I can’t agree that it’s as polished as Gnome from my personal experience with the two. But as always, user experience may vary. My experience with KDE seems to be a minority which is good for everyone else lol


  • We all got choices, that’s what I like about Linux. KDE seems to run great for most people, for me it always seems to bug out and act super janky (the panel editor in particular would bug out and crash constantly, I could never get the damn thing to where I liked it). If it was more stable for me I’d probably use it, I love customizing my system. I’ve tried making it work a few times, never seems to click.

    GNOME’s extensions may break on updates from time to time but my day to day experience with it is much nicer. While more rigid it’s a lot more polished and doesn’t crash out on me just using the interface. I like the layout of it. I’m glad KDE works for so many of you guys, but I’ll stick with GNOME until a better option comes around.

    That said, if anyone has a better suggestion for a desktop environment I’m all ears.


  • I’m running Gnome on Nobara, switching between Wayland and Xorg there’s a noticable difference in the vibrancy of the colors. Xorg and Windows both look fine, it’s specifically under Wayland that everything dulls out. Multiple displays, displayport/hdmi makes no difference.

    That said, this problem doesn’t affect everyone. Makes it much harder to troubleshoot. Color profiles don’t alter anything, I don’t have an HDR display and most of the forums I’ve found regarding this are having issues with HDR.

    I have no idea at this point and limited free time to work on it when Xorg has been working fine. That said, I figured I’d throw it out there in a thread where people are praising Wayland to see if someone knows something I’ve missed. XD


  • Wayland seems to have problems showing colors properly. I was trying to fix this issue myself a couple weeks ago.

    Colors in Xorg and Windows(gross) show properly, Wayland always looks dull and muted in comparison. Switching color profiles didn’t change anything.

    But hey, maybe there’s a fix I haven’t tried yet that works… I sure would hate to be proven wrong! No seriously, if someone has a fix for the dull colors I would likely start using Wayland again.



  • I ended up switching to Gnome because KDE would always feel a bit jank to me. Something about it always feels slightly off, animations not working properly or being choppy like my desktop had an unstable framerate. Might just be it fighting with Nvidia, but I don’t have several hundred bucks lying around to upgrade my card and switch to AMD…

    Kind of odd seeing the massive hate boner the community seems so have for Gnome, at least we have options for desktop environments at all.