More RoboCop than Skynet.

If you’re unaware, using a corportate LLM like Claude brings with it some significant external societal costs, which I believe most AI users are not aware of or taking into account.

1. Simply using an AI that’s run on a corporate data centers encourages the construction of yet more data centers, with all of the environmental/climate negatives they bring, as well as local harms they induce on the people living near them, such as increased electricity rates.

2. Using corporate AI directly helps the financial situations of those giant corporations (by boosting usage/user numbers, they are able to attract more investment capital), most of which are ran by right-wing CEOs who are more than willing to collaborate with and fund fascist governments to ensure that they are not regulated in search of both maximum profits. Some of these companies, such as Nvidia, Palantir and Oracle, genuinely appear to be seeking to use these tools for what would previously be considered crackpot conspiracy theory levels of public control and surveillance.

3. I’m wary of the potential effects of AI usage resulting in declining or stagnating critical thinking based on some preliminary studies (example 1, example 2).

I personally think that the external costs of AI use far outweigh any potential benefit they can bring, but if you ultimately decide you are going to continue using them, please consider at least using a self-hosted LLM, or using something like AI horde instead, which has volunteers hosting AI, and avoids directly benefitting the fascist corporations such as openAI, anthropic, ect.

Greg KH (the second in command of the Linux kernel, below Linus) in a recent talk said anything uploaded to a corporate AI is going to be used for training, and to assume anything uploaded or pasted into it is insecure and certainly not private.

The capitalism problem is also responsible for an inability to regulate AI, as the very people responsible for the regulations are lobbied to fuck by the AI corps to avoid that regulation.

That means the only power to fight back against them rests in the hands of individuals, who can refuse to use the corporate owned tools.

Most people I know are using corporate AI, and appeals to try local LLMs fall on deaf ears in my experience, with claims that they aren’t powerful enough or that the hardware to run them is too cost prohibitive. If most of the people you know are running local models, I think that is an exception to the norm.

Would you support FLOSS projects officially restricting any AI contributions to those only made with locally hosted models? As I said, most times I’ve mentioned that idea in other threads, the pro-AI side was vehemently against it.

Your response to my comment mentioning that AI is contributioning to climate change was to suggest it was equivalent to HVAC workers being afraid of heatpumps, which is ridiculous.

If you think climate change is an impending global disaster, do you think building giant data centers that require extremely polluting on-site power generators is not a particularly bad idea, and should factor in heavily on how this technology is used or promoted?

It seems like most users and advocates of LLMs find the idea of limiting its use to just locally hosted models to avoid the majority of the negative externalities to be unthinkable.

You don’t think climate change is a massive threat to our habitable biosphere?

Redox or Haiku, if the Linux kernel is unable to be successfully forked.

There’s no such thing as ‘just a tool’, especially if that tool is accelerating climate change when we’re already on the knife’s edge of irreversible domino effects.

AFAIK System76 had issues with the Gnome devs not wanting to accept some pull requests from S76 which they wanted for their own functionality, so they eventually decided to build their own DE in their preferred language; rust.

Cosmic is now the only major DE that is entirely rejecting AI generated code, so I’m rooting for it to succeed.

That message about Beehaw was added by Rimu, the creator of Piefed, not Beehaw. He just wanted people to act nice when commenting there, in respect for the pleasant culture they have cultivated.

According to Beehaw’s instances page, it is currently federated with feddit.org. Your comments showing up on beehaw itself, and the beehaw user responding to them with you able to see them, demonstrates that both instances are federated.

That other user appears to be misinformed.

The only instance I know of that defederated feddit.org is dbzer0, is that the instance you were thinking of?

Beehaw has problematic users? Like on average? I haven’t seen that myself.

Beehaw is defederated with Hexbear and Lemmygrad.

Most instances are federated with Lemmy.ml (including yours), the only one I know of that isn’t is Lemmy.cafe.

Redox OS also has an Anti-AI policy, I believe.

Wendell from Level1Techs built Greg KH a monster rig for free, I’m sure they’d be willing to build one for Linus too.

Woah, how did I miss that?! Thanks for the heads up :)

It looks like it still doesn’t do group calls, but 1 on 1 is still great to have for sure.

There are a few distros that do reject all AI code, which you can find in these two lists:

https://noai.starlightnet.work/list.html

https://codeberg.org/ethical-foss/open-slopware#linux-based (under the ‘Alternative Linux-based operating systems’ section).

Greg KH in a recent talk said even the most advanced LLM produces an incorrect result 50% of the time, I would not trust it to perform more reliably than a human even with tight boundaries.

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