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Well… No offense… but duh? It’s not like OP can migrate his spouses “Spouse@gmail.com” address to his mail server.

I was under the assumption (and I could be wrong) that OP owns the domain… And wants to run their mailboxes. If she wants to keep her own mailbox and use it, just forward it to her gmail if that’s what she wants. I’m also not insinuating forcing someone into something.

I own my domain(you guessed correctly) and host my own emails. My spouse does use an inbox on my server(actually a few)… If she didn’t want to anymore she can open a mailbox where-ever she wants… and I’ll even forward whatever I get to her. That’s it. Wouldn’t stop me from running my own inbox on my own server. And I’m not forcing her to do anything at all. She can use it or not.

This is the mentality I have when I made the previous comments. Just forward her stuff off, she can go wherever she wants.

Until the basement floods and the server goes offline for a few days

That’s what backups are for.

or botched upgrade that’s failing quietly;

See above

over zealous spam assassin configuration;

That’s an assumption that you’re using this specific product.

What’s funny is you think that all of this can’t happen to your stuff on Google’s servers either for some reason… Say the wrong thing in a Youtube comment? Boom whole google profile banned. All your emails are gone too.

Or random software that interfaces poorly with each other (https://support.google.com/mail/thread/142335843/all-of-my-emails-have-disappeared-how-can-i-recover-them?hl=en)

SMTP is stupidly forgiving. You’re not going to magically lose singular emails.

But one thing is for sure, my wife won’t have any of it. She’s a total backwards thinking give me windows or I’ll jump kind of Gal.

So… forward her inbox to her personal gmail account? Keep your mail server as it was for you?

Image says “laptop”. op could have just charge the battery a but before running the update.

Nah. The person you responded to asked a facetious question. You started being pedantic.Everyone know what it means when someone says something is bricked.

AND even then you can reflash the bios, its time consuming and costly but you can.

then nothing can be bricked because on paper you can desolder the rom chip and put another one in place.

If you want to be stupidly pedantic about shit, then nothing is anything.

You can absolutely start writing garbage to bios and brick the mobo firmware.

Oh god this make so much more sense…

I had read a comment from OP talking about random shit, then ran into this thread… I thought they just lost their shit. I still wonder… but a lot less now.

If it’s a raidz, you can.

Yes, but at the very least they have to do queries to build that profile out across dozens or hundreds of recipients… And they only get what I explicitly sent to them/their users.

Google collects 100% of the emails you’re getting on gmail and it’s already sent directly to you… so they see it completely… including emails being sent to other sources since it originates from their server (so collecting information that would be going to an MS Exchange server as well…).

Self hosting this means that you’re collecting your own shit… And companies can only get the outgoing side to their users. And never the full picture of your systems/emails.

This matters a lot more than you think. Lots of systems for automation sends through systems like Mailchimp, PHPmailer, etc… So those emails from your doctor likely never originated from MS or Google to begin with. When it hits your inbox on Gmail or Outlook… Well now it’s on their system. Now they can analyze it.

Mailcow.

Personally. No. The hardest part is getting a clean IP and to setup PTR records for a static IP. The rest has been easy for me personally… but I do this shit for a living so I might be biased.

What do you use for that?

Because emails can have a boatload of sensitive information (especially when collected en masse, think years and years of emails)… In the day of AI bullshit. Minimizing all that data being directly attached to an account associated with you and owned by google or some other corp seems like a sane desire. If you primary a gmail account… and they start (they probably already are) training on that dataset. Shit is going to get real testy.

Nextcloud AIO on a Proxmox LXC container. One instance for home, one instance at work. All works great. Both are on fast ceph storage (SSDs at home and NVMe at work).

Nah, that’d be mean. It isn’t “simple” by any stretch. It’s an aggregation of a lot of hours put into it. What’s fun is that when it gets that big you start putting tools together to do a lot of the work/diagnosing for you. A good chunk of those tools have made it into production for my companies too.

LibreNMS to tell me what died when… Wazuh to monitor most of the security aspects of it all. I have a gitea instance with my own repos for scripts when it comes maintenance time. Centralized stuff and a cron stub on the containers/vms can mean you update all your stuff in one go

Fire extinguisher is in the garage… literal feet from the server. But that specific problem is actually being addressed soon. My dad is setting up his cluster and I fronted him about 1/2 the capacity I have. I intend to sync longterm/slow storage to his box (the truenas box is the proxmox backup server target, so also collects the backups and puts a copy offsite).

Slow process… Working on it :) Still have to maintain my normal job after all.

Edit: another possible mitigation I’ve seriously thought about for “fire” are things like these…

https://hsewatch.com/automatic-fire-extinguisher/

Or those types of modules that some 3d printer people use to automatically handle fires…

Absurdly safe.

Proxmox cluster, HA active. Ceph for live data. Truenas for long term/slow data.

About 600 pounds of batteries at the bottom of the rack to weather short power outages (up to 5 hours). 2 dedicated breakers on different phases of power.

Dual/stacked switches with lacp’d connections that must be on both switches (one switch dies? Who cares). Dual firewalls with Carp ACTIVE/ACTIVE connection…

Basically everything is as redundant as it can be aside from one power source into the house… and one internet connection into the house. My “single point of failures” are all outside of my hands… and are all mitigated/risk assessed down.

I do not use cloud anything… to put even 1/10th of my shit onto the cloud it’s thousands a month.