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  • Not who replied to you originally but,

    You aren’t wrong (you even stated that more is probably better) , just not necessarily presenting the whole picture.

    Ram compression isn’t a benefit only scenario, there is a cost in processing power to make that happen.

    So it’s a trade off of memory utilisation vs processing requirements.

    Whether or not it’s worth it is down to circumstance, though i agree that generally i think it’s worth the tradeoff.

    Unified memory is useful in specific circumstances, most notably LLM/ML scenarios where high vram utilisation is part of the process.

    It’s not an apples to apples comparison by any means.



  • They even had an ending in the movie that was closer to the original , but they cut it/changed it because it didn’t test well.

    I’d guess that was because it was an ending that followed the original storyline and didn’t make sense without the rest of the movie also following the original storyline.

    spoiler

    It turns out (or is apparent in general) that the “zombies” are sentient/sapient and to them he’s the monster in the dark(or daylight as is the case here), from their point of view he’s basically been abducting people for experimentation and killing anyone who comes looking for their abducted family.

    The zombie/vampire guy at the end is just looking for his partner to rescue her, once he has her, he leaves.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKwZOa6CL6U



  • Volume and what i think of as uncanny valley code.

    Where you, as a maintainer, previously had 10 PR’s to get through you now have 100+.

    Where you, as a maintainer, previously had a range of quality of submissions, you now have a significant proportion of submissions that look reasonable, but only upon further inspection aren’t doing what is described.

    Those two things are multiplicative and add an immense amount of effort on the maintainers side.

    and just in case you are thinking “but automation”, it mostly doesn’t fix these issue to any appreciable degree.

    That’s before you even get into what kind of % of the LLM PR’s are useful ( a different discussion )




  • I’m not sure a strictly maths based ethics is the way to go, that’s where you get into sociopath greater-good style considerations like “If i take out the managing team of <Big Meat Corp> , eventually they’ll recover but i’ll have saved approximately X animals in the meantime”

    Don’t get me wrong, i’m not against that kind of thinking, i’m just not sure it’s a viable long-term lifestyle.


    In order to produce 1 steak, a cow has to die.

    In order to produce n steaks 1 cow has to die.

    Arguably it’s probably slightly more than 1, given the morbidity rate of cows before they reach the “food production” stage.

    In order to produce 1 phone, many different people have to work to produce it, enslaved or not.

    In order to produce n phones a non-zero number of people will (likely) be maimed/outright killed while working under slave labour conditions.

    If you include the more realistic cost/benefits i suggested above does that change the calculations involved for you ?


    The following is an aside to the main conversation:

    It was been pointed out that some electronics are as good as necessities for most people, while i think there’s a subjective aspect to “necessity” I’ll concede some electronics use it’s not the same as meat consumption. Though i would further argue that under today’s food production and distribution systems, meat consumption could be argued to be a necessity in some situations.

    But that’s almost certainly an entirely different conversation.


  • In reference to my other conversation regarding the comparison of products that use electronics vs meat consumption, I would ask if “convenience” was a valid justification.

    Given the horrors of the electronics supply chain (slavery, horrific working conditions, cartels etc) im not sure why convenience electronics (phones, laptops, pc’s) use would be OK, but meat consumption would not.

    Im not saying the horrors are equivalent and it’s not a dig at you, I’m genuinely trying to figure out why one kind of horror is OK, but another is not and how people make those calls.


  • Hope this helps <3

    It does and your points are valid, but i’ll respond to a couple if you don’t mind.

    Honestly, if someone is truly aware of the horrors of the animal agriculture industry and is totally fine with it, I would be very, very surprised.

    As would i (outside of the sociopath possibility you also mention) , i was thinking more along the lines of people who fully understand and then accept it as something they can live with.

    The comparisons of the meat industry to electronics i mostly agree with, except for this last part, not because it’s incorrect as such, i just didn’t provide enough context.

    Melting metal, pouring it into moulds to make circuitry, etc. doesn’t hurt anyone directly, it’s capitalism and the drive for maximal profits which cause issues in electronics. I’m a huge proponent for the abolition of capitalism for this reason too.

    I mentioned electronics because it’s easy for people to at least shallowly understand how much they use them, what’s not so obvious is the horrors of how they are produced, in a similar way to how people as a whole don’t really understand how the meat industry is run.

    Long before the metal pouring and assembly you have the rare earth elements industry that uses horrific limb-removing slave work camps to extract these minerals. it’s not all of them, but it’s significantly more than zero.

    There are also cartel like warlords involved in some of the extraction sites.

    Think of it as a similar situation to conflict diamonds, but more entrenched and critical to nation state interests.

    I mentioned cobalt because it’s the easiest to find credible documentaries, reports and discussions about, but it’s not just cobalt.

    Honestly a lot of the big industries are supported by modern day slavery and inhumane conditions or experimentation, i would also assume that extends to the non-human animals as well but i can’t honestly speak to that.

    Textiles (clothes, shoes, trainers), agriculture (avocado’s have cartels because of course they do, coffee), pharmaceuticals, non-meat food (chocolate for example).

    I keep coming back to the phrase “There is no ethical consumerism under capitalism” which aligns with your stance on the abolition of capitalism, but i tend to think of it as there is no ethical consumerism in general (at least right now) because i can’t think of a way we could ethically overcome the sheer density of population using the level of logistical technology we have available and that’s not even taking into account the (subjective) apparent nature of how human’s deal with such large populations.

    But me not being able to see how we make the jump from now to a post scarcity, fully equitable society is almost certainly just a failure of my imagination.

    My main question is how do people seem to be able to decide they can live with limbless kid electronics but slave labour clothes are too far, cartel avocado’s are an unfortunate necessity but meat is monstrous.

    I understand that not all of those things are equal and battles need to be picked but it doesn’t seem like the subjective severity is the deciding factor and how are the battles picked.



  • and then , once they acknowledge that ?

    The reason i ask is that I’ve never heard an opinion from someone with the viewpoint it seems you hold talk about what they’d think in that situation.

    and my follow up would be to ask why meat and not electronics (explained below) or textiles or megacorps ?


    In general i struggle with why people place these ethical and moral rubicons in the places they do (i do mostly understand why the lines exist)

    I mentioned in another comment about the horrific shit that goes in to basically all electronics (there are numerous documentaries and articles on the horrors of cobalt mining for instance) and it seems odd that people are ok with that but not the meat industry, or perhaps fine with both of those but draw the line at baby animals.

    Again, i understand why the lines exist, it’s the seemingly arbitrary nature of where they are placed for different circumstances that eludes me.

    I’m asking so i can gather opinions enough that hopefully i can understand, eventually



  • OK, so if negative fucks were a thing, that would be how may fucks in general i give about the actual argument you are having.

    That being said, to me it seems hypocritical to be throwing shade about intentional animal cruelty unless you are somehow posting these replies without using any electronics whatsoever.

    Almost all electronics require materials sourced or processed off the back of rare earth minerals not even mentioning the supply chain and assembly.

    As you said, people are animals too, slavery and workplace mutilation are animal abuse.

    I’m not whattabouting your argument, both things are fucked up and one doesn’t cancel out the other and as i said, i’m not supporting either side.

    but the stunning lack of awareness (or acknowledgement) of the hypocrisy of your argument is offensive.




  • It was but a mere example

    Fair enough.

    It could help, but it’s not a problem that any one solution is the solution. There’s going to be some combination of solutions to actually solve it.

    Also reasonable

    Not really, I might have a lot of accounts, but it’s still only 1 per instance so it’s not really inflating the numbers. Besides most go by monthly active users for gauging the Threadiverse health which because of my pattern I might not even make up 1 MAU lol

    Reasonable again.

    I don’t just make them, I do my best to actively contribute to them, like I said I also post “organically sourced” content and not just crossposts for this very reason.

    I missed that, if that’s whats happening i retract my implication.

    Um I’m not sure how that would be a user education error? I’m talking about someone maliciously making an imposter account and posting heinous crap “in their name” But there is currently no technical solution on the Threadiverse afaik for it

    I think imposter account is a misnomer, two accounts with the same name on different instances are distinct entities afaik,

    like mike@gmail.com isn’t the same as mike@outlook.com.

    if you look at a post and it’s written by “mike” and you don’t look at the instance it’s from you’re only getting half of the information you need.

    Solutions for this type of problem exist already (PGP keys etc), they just aren’t very practical for regular people.

    The “could be better solved in a different manner.” part was mostly about how the underlying software for the instances might be changed to allow for some of these existing solutions to be integrated more seamlessly.

    Or something entirely new, who knows.

    Nah crossposts are a solution for a different problem, 4 is for when an instance hasn’t federated with another instances remote comm yet and is therefore unknown to the instance

    For example, I made this post to my comm at !gunnerkrigg@lemmy.cafe today from this toast.ooo instance I’m on rn

    But toast.ooo never federated with that comm so as far as this instance knew !gunnerkrigg@lemmy.cafe didn’t exist until I manually went to the comm by URL (toast.ooo/c/gunnerkrigg@lemmy.cafe) and subbed to it

    Until then nobody on this instance would have been seeing posts from that comm in their c/all/new/whatever feed, even if a post went “viral”. But now they will and for every other comm I sub to as I go

    I didn’t know this is how it worked, makes sense in that context.


  • I’m not sure catering to the opinions of random redditors is a useful approach, but that aside.

    The Lemmy network and the Threadiverse at large being associated as just a Tankie hangout

    Which would be solved by creating an instance (or building up an existing instance) that isn’t the triad.

    In this case Rimu (PieFed dev) and others were quick to jump in and steer, so hopefully this whole boycotting/cross-posting campaign at the very least gives them more fuel when these comments come up on the outside something like “Tankies are there, but they don’t have any important comms so you can just block those 3 instances or join [x] instance which blocks them for you”

    Which would also be solved with the same solution.

    From your list:

    1. Promoting smaller instances, because of the volume of my posting it helps makes smaller instances more recognizable
    2. Making comms on fitting smaller instances (e.g. a programming comm id make on programming.dev)
    3. Mitigating against the imposter problem
    4. Better interconnecting smaller instances

    1 sounds like artificially inflating the numbers

    2 isn’t that useful IMO because without the actual content / ongoing engagement you just end up with multiple ghost communities.

    3 i think the imposter problem is a user education error and/or could be better solved in a different manner.

    4 this is what cross-posting is for right (though I’ll admit that experience is lacklustre right now)? You don’t need a whole account to cross-post between communities.

    Artificially inflating the numbers might look like it helps in the short term, but is bringing someone here under false pretences a workable solution, or even a solution you want ?