https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/20802768

Lesson: just have fun

Actually, the Aristocrats.

a copy of Bubsy, one of the worst games released for the system.

Leave Bubsy alone, please!
Leave Bubsy alone right now! I mean it.
Anyone that has a problem with him, you deal with me, because he is not well right now.
Leave him alone.

What could pawssibly go wrong?

Rude. But not inaccurate.

I mean that take is pretty fair, the number of people bitching about features but not willing to learn a little bit of coding to contribute is too damn high. “We want better UI and to make it easier for normies!” So then contribute to the project. “No!”

The argument was that the mod in question didn’t take his ball and go home. I just pointed out that by removing himself from the moderating team, he removed an active moderator, which very much is taking your ball and going home, especially if the new mods that didn’t get asked if they wanted to be do just that, remove themselves and move on.

Actually, I’ve seen MetaFilter be fairly successful at rolling out as a legal non-profit entity with elections and interviews to be admins/moderators. What is the draw? These people are all paid, they are not doing the work for free. It’s now literally their day job and pays them enough to support themselves doing that as their job.

I know a lot of people don’t actually want to explore that, but I think that would instantly alleviate the complaints of people being expected to do labor for free. I don’t actually think it should be free, but as it is, Lemmy instances are not well funded enough for that, especially with the ability to create endless communities. MetaFilter has different sections, but nobody can just arbitrarily make a new section that needs new mods. So part of it here is how Lemmy is designed, and it’s base design reflects the assumption that moderators work for free.

So anyway, put me in the basket of “we should pay admins and moderators (as well as vote for them), and this would solve so many problems.”

Can an atheist get the same exception by saying we don’t believe in Roko’s Basilisk so we won’t help bring it into being?

lmao, oh bless your heart.

EA isn’t above making a good Star Wars game occasionally. I am indeed intrigued by an X-COM turn-based tactical RPG(?) in the Star Wars universe.

I would say yours was just a little more pointed, but I agree that it still falls under constructive criticism. I also think you’re doing the right thing continuing to try to get a response out of the original moderator in case they did this in a fit while having an unrelated bad day or something. We never know what’s happening in people’s lives outside the internet, and maybe they were dealing with a death in the family or who knows, just something where the stressors added up and this stress of moderating became too much to bear when faced with constructive criticism. They may come back in a day or so and regret their decision, which is why it’s good of you to keep communications open. Cheers, mate.

Yeah I know what subs I’m not interacting with any time soon now lmao.

I guarantee you this person you’re responding to is a power tripping bastard when it comes to their own communities, based on their attitude in this thread alone.

Sure nobody owes their time, but they signed up for it. The idea that you’ll never get anyone with even the tiniest complaint (and genuinely, it was an incredibly small complaint) and to just throw your hands and give up when you do is childish. The first person to bring it up even said they just thought the moderator was working too hard, not that they were doing anything wrong, and that they even understood and respect the philosophy behind it. They weren’t being rude, there’s almost no better way to present constructive criticism than how the OP brought it up to begin with. If that’s worth crashing out over, you’re not fit to be a fucking mod anyway, imho.

Yet in here a few people have written off as complainers instead of active members of a community who are giving community feedback.

I would get it if the users were being rude, but they clearly weren’t, the first person to bring it up especially was incredibly understanding and not rude at all. Losing it over constructive criticism is power tripping baby bitch shit.

This is the hype train, claiming they can and will do so much more than be junior software engineers.

Why would they want a slowdown while simultaneously getting ready for an IPO?

Because for one, these things can’t and won’t do so much more than be junior software engineers because a complete lack of understanding of how the human mind does not inhabit the body or pilot the body, but the mind separated from the body loses wholeness. That’s going to blow up these IPOs if they can’t actually deliver, so the slowdown is the industry all shaking hands and saying “we need more time for this charade to hold up” when actually none of them will slow down, they’ll just be trying to hide how little forward progress there is to be made left with these kind of models and without moving to something even more complex. They need the con to last as long as possible in hopes of delivering something useful at all to justify the massive increase in surveillance capitalism that citizens obviously do not want. Their IPO will crash if they get found out to be frauds right after going public, and they aren’t satisfied enough with a quick pump and dump, they all want to be the next Musk. So they need a global slowdown to justify how things have actually hit a wall in terms of making LLMs useful to every day people.

“Their ball” in this instance would be the way they handled moderation, and they took their moderation with them.

Would you think any different if they removed themselves and everyone else as moderators, leaving it purposely unmoderated? Because he didn’t even ask if the people he modded wanted or were up to the task. What if they weren’t and the community spirals without moderation. Seems like taking something away to me.

I mean, in a sense, forcing people who didn’t ask for mod powers to suddenly be mods because of very minor criticism and then bailing seems like power tripping to me. “If you don’t like the way I do it, do it yourself!” Where the power tripping is taking their ball and going home because people don’t like how they’re doing it.

On reddit if a post was deleted I could still interact with the thread, even if the content of the post itself was gone.

So it was a bit more elegant, imho, as it allows continued discussion and being able to link to the thread without it being completely nuked.

I also think that set expectations for how people expected it to work here, where the post contents and author would be nuked but the thread could still be accessed by hotlink.