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For sure, but that always gives advanced users the option to ungate it through the registry. The benefit to them of having it be “modular” would to be able to completely restrict even power users from being able to free their OS to use how they actually want to.
Once again, the original article was debunked, so we’re talking hypotheticals here anyway, a modular version isn’t coming.
I mean, I would argue that having to pay for access to different parts of Windows, like say access to PowerShell or access to more advanced features and settings has been part of the way they make money for a long time. That’s why their used to be “Home,” “Pro,” and “Enterprise” versions all with various levels of capability. So while it looks like the original article has been debunked, I would think that offering stripped-down versions of Windows would just serve as a way to push upgrades to more full featured versions the same way they press you to upgrade to Office 365.
More importantly, it looks like PCWorld is retracting the article and has issued a post mortem on how it got published.
AI slop
They definitely didn’t use that terminology though, with how hard they’re pushing back against the “Microslop” term. Thanks for the update, however.
EDIT: As @NOT_RICK@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world has pointed out, that Windows 12 article has been debunked, not just by outside sources, but by PCWorld itself at this point. The article itself has a large disclaimer on it now, and they have a breakdown on how the story got published in the first place:
Original Comment:
This actually tracks completely with the news about an incoming Windows 12 announcement and in particular the claim about Windows 12 being modular. The description has claimed that it will make certain aspects of Windows able to be added or removed at will. Meaning options like a “minimal” desktop installation that has very few options, no PowerShell, no Terminal, no access to a majority of common Windows features, and very little control of the OS other than changing the desktop background.
In other words, this new “Project Helix” or whatever will be a stripped-down version of Windows 12 with everything non-gaming-related removed, including access to half the system settings I’m sure.
No, mine was some generic nonsense from Fred Mayer years ago that isn’t available anymore.
…am I really the only one who bought fucking metal straws with silicon tips and the tools to clean them years and years ago now?
This seems like a solved problem.
each non-technological activity we participate in has become an act of micro-revolution.
Not to be a nitpicker but… Tapes and tape decks are technology? Just like… 50 year old tech? In the scheme of the history of human technology that’s a blip. Not using technology would be like sitting in the grass staring at the clouds. Written language is technology, books are technology, and so on. They’re just early, simple human tech but they are still tech.
Do you mean DisplayPort?
Your Pixel
Limited to Pixel 8 and newer devices and no 4k yet.
Oh, so your Pixel, but not my Pixel.
After the RT reviews of Melania came out it became impossible to argue that they aren’t gamed to hell and back. No way to trust their reviews anymore. I would trust even Plex reviews over these.
Absolutely, it was at the height of the “software as a service” phase and they were doing rolling updates for the Windows Insider program. For a hot minute they absolutely planned on it just being “Windows” from then on.
For sure, it’s a vast improvement, but there’s still so much you can’t do with it.
Mostly because unlike Bash and DOS, which are CLIs that get GUIs slapped on top, PowerShell is a CLI slapped on top of a GUI.
And they still haven’t even finished making PowerShell anywhere near as functional as Bash or any other Linux shell environment. First version of PowerShell came out exactly 10 years after the first version of NT.
I don’t outright hate PowerShell but it’s clearly a hacky afterthought after realizing Linux was eating their lunch in the server space via quick rollouts to thousands of computers at once through Bash scripting.
Right, but that’s just it, they’re basically pulling another Vista if they release Windows 12 later this year.
It’s not clear whether Windows 12 will welcome any non-NPU processors. More likely, PCs that don’t meet its system requirements will lose some functionality.
As the article reasonably posits, it’s way more likely that they’ll just degrade the experience for people without NPUs, which in other words means decreased performance on older hardware, a la Vista on non-compliant hardware. Yes, Vista fucked up rollout by claiming that some hardware was Vista ready when it wasn’t, but basically the same could happen here regarding lack of NPUs.
They’re already fucking this up with vibe-coding Windows 11, so if they seriously go all-in on this, Windows 12 will be a bigger disaster than fucking Windows Vista and Windows Millennium Edition combined.
…and frankly, I think they will. They’ve bet the farm on this AI shit, and they need to force it into everything to justify it’s fucking existence even though Copilot is the most dogshit out of all these dogshit generative AI systems.
Windows 10 arguably became passable for stability about 3 years after release… but you still had to cut out the advertising bloat, spyware, and all which undermined any gains of stability because that shit was just fucking annoying.
Dude, they’re still struggling with Windows 11 adoption because of the unreasonable requirements of a TPM 2.0 capable motherboard/CPU… and they are asking people to upgrade their CPUs again?
They only started seeing real growth in Windows 11 numbers as of January of this year. Windows 11 finally hit 73% last month while Windows 10 is down to 27%. Linux continues to gain marketshare, and there’s no telling if the reason that Win 11 is finally gaining marketshare is from people dumping Windows entirely for other options. Mac and Chromebook shares have been growing as well! It took Microsoft four and a half years from release to break 50% Win 11 adoption and they want to release Win 12 on year five while forcing more upgrades when half the people who got in just upgraded?
This on top of trade wars, actual wars, and an AI arms race that is making buying PC parts obscenely overpriced… and they think people will fucking go for this?
The suits at Microsoft are out of their fucking minds. Even businesses won’t want to upgrade this soon after many only just making upgrades to meet Windows 11 requirements just recently… because businesses are also facing the same increased costs due to the above issues!
Absolutely and it helped prove why they needed to do this security review to begin with as well as will teach them the nature of how this user script worked so they can put up guardrails for this specific type of attack. An unfortunate event but as long as they are using it to learn from and strengthen their security, overall it’s a good thing.