and as if this isn’t something that flags with the historical trends

https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

In short, up till the 1970s worker pay and productivity moved nearly in perfect sync with each-other, more stuff happens, people get paid more, then, it stopped, company profits shot up, while worker pay barely went up at all (could be argued it went down due to inflation), Point is fixing that part first is kind of what matters. Then we can look into expecting the average person to care about “productivity” going up, THEN we can start finding out if AI is even being directed in a way that accomplishes that.

Staff is also usually instructed to make you buy more as well.

Anyway my key point isn’t that kiosks are flawless, my point is, there is a tangible benefit, a reason why a decent portion of people may actually get a benefit to them from a kiosk. (IE less factors for order mistakes, potentially easier time finding what they want, some people don’t want to have to use their voice and talk to someone at all).

My point is, in the fast food restraunts in my area, the ones that have kiosks, mostly also have human casheers as well, and even when the restraunt is slow and there’s no line for either one, it’s close to 50/50 of where people go to. While if an AI voice bot were added, I would be shocked if 1% of people would chose that over a human or a kiosk.

Kiosks, by definition reduce the points of failure in making an order. If I order through a human.

I might mis-speak, Employee might mishear me, Employee might hit the wrong button.

When I use the kiosk… I might hit the wrong button.

That’s a clear defined advantage of the system on the fundimental level

an AI drive through window

I might mispeak, AI might mishear me, AI might do something unexpected even with the correct data. All the flaws of humans and kiosks.

and I’m sure it won’t turn itself back on anyway every software update… with 15 promtps “hey are you really sure you don’t want to use this, we’ve improved it, why don’t you try it again before you disable it again”.

I mean the problem with drive throughs is that’s like the most painful way to order anything. Doesn’t matter if it’s a human or an AI. Lets talk on a garbage speaker 6 feet away with traffic, wind and everything else inbetween. Without being able to see the face of the person. Know when or if the feed has been cut off, also the added fun of the speed being terrible and of course the ability to get stuck because even if you realize it’s not worth the time… a car can pull up behind you and force you to wait it out as long as it takes.

I’m meaning picking the items and what I want on my food. Point is when I hit “extra pickles” the computer doesn’t go “no pickles?” or possibly ignore me. Point is voice communication is… well rife with mishearing and miscommunication, whether the recipient is an AI or a human.

Just as when I’m communicating with humans… if not having mistakes is important, I send a text.

The only complaint I disagree with is

We hate the kiosks at McDonald’s, Wendy’s, and Taco Bell that we are asked to use instead of talking to a person

Personally I love the kiosks. I love being able to select exactly what I want, and not go through a communication layer with a person, who may mishear or misinterpret what I say, and adding that while still having humans there for people who don’t like using screens or actually have questions is a good thing IMO.

But yes, AI is all the flaws of human workers, plus some because they always have and always will be significantly worse than humans at spotting mistakes giving you what you don’t want etc…

AI is as useful and necessary as 3D video, cryptocurrency, NFTs, The Cloud, and all the other fads. Note that all the fads have stuck around in one manner or another. LLMs will too.

Agreed I see some strong use for AI… just not everywhere, everything like it’s being shoved down our throats.

I mean I can say it’s not quite as guaranteed to be bad. IE distance from A to B is inherently bad, Most distance driven COULD mean you made more stops and did more good… or it could mean you took a horrible route, got lost and wound up crossing through the wrong state.

if I’m seeing it right, it looks like odyssius is meant to be more of a front end. IE it still needs ollama as the back end.

Only if you assume that all miles are correctly headed towards the destination. 2 drivers are given the same 3 places to deliver packages to.

one drives 2000 miles, the other 50.

Admitted though now that I actually think about it, I guess we already have that level of stupid assumptions. After all the normal system of pay for many jobs is by the hour. Which I suppose has all the same flaws.

I believe the implication is ended 5 months after his term started.

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Whole concept of “how much AI you used”, is so flipping stupid of a metric I can’t even wrap my head around. I mean even if we assume it’s their own AI they are using… that’s their power etc… That’s like a leaderboard for most gas used up, or miles driven by your truck drivers.

Bottom line every policy platner is calling for, is the exact opposite of nazi rhetoric. Meanwhile musk is retweeting great replacement theory posts and bolstering white suppremicist groups.

In a vacume I’d have given musks Nazi salute a pass. Symbols can be mistaken and mis-given. Were it not at a time when he… literally was not just not banning, or unbanning white supremacists on twitter, but explicitly re-tweeting and bolstering them as well, it wouldn’t have meant much.

Honestly my thoughts on how I’d actually use AI… versus OpenAI’s are exactly the opposite. Honestly I could see a world where a lot of people get an on site LLM server. Plug it in etc… I could actually see that as useful, IE keep it air gapped, and then you can train it off of your e-mails, your house etc…, not trust everything to some outside company. From what I’m gathering from the chinese open source models that sounds very viable.

Of course the ultimate annoyance is, the datacenter surge is actually taking compute out of regular price ranges.

Actually annoyingly makes me think of the point in time that electricity itself was at this crossroads, where eddison wanted every house to have a DC generator, while Tesla was pushing for AC transmission to send current from centralized locations

I mean it sounds pretty rough… and it would seem to me the real problem is they are making it sound like the problem is the existing routers. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it basically saying… someone could drop in a battery powered wifi router in your front yard and spy through your walls?

very true, I had to get slow feeding bowls for 2 of my dogs, because they regularly will eat too fast and throw up everything.

lol the amount of times I’ve seen AI do.

No wait that’s wrong try this

Oh wait that’s also wrong that still doesn’t work try this.

No still wouldn’t do it.

On just questions without asking it to correct itself, (which tells me internally they have some kind of… basically reviewing it’s own answers before they go out.

Honestly I do wonder if we’ll get there

a hello world program would just spin back and forth “Rejected demanded these fixes”, Rejected making it more like the original, rejected. retrying

“you have spent your entire $50,000 token budget… would you like to restock and keep going”.

Obviously as AI improves at clerking, it gradually works it’s way up the ladder, for a while we’ll have our VIBE lawyers until they can be fully replaced with full AI lawyers, and then repeat the process for judges.

Damn… I’m amazed that wasn’t a bigger story, I think that really would have hurt his legacy as the beloved naked gun actor.