a small amount of jailtime is a slap on the wrist. A scolding is nothing.

I have like, some kind of magical luck.

Grabbed a 128gbachine right before the rampockolypse.

Finished filling out my nas with 14 tb drives a few weeks ago…

I think at its roots its like, you have to be willing to consider things first. You have to start with a willingness to believe.

Or at least thats Mulders MO in the show.

Scully is the scientist, the hard nosed skeptic.

If you haven’t watched the show, it actually has aged decently, if its a bit campy.

The entire fandom:

go on…

Weird desire to sit on your balls and tell them what I want for Christmas.

This thread even 18 hrs later:

You insist on not trying to understand

No, its that you continue to insist that your “nuance” isn’t apoligism.

I’m done.

This isn’t a train station. No need to announce your departure. Everyone here can read your words and judge you for themselves, and they are, and they see you apologizing for genocide. You should take the time of your departure to mediate on why that might be.

The thing is called a thing and should be called a thing.

Ok. Well thats not what you are doing and its not what German law or Feddit is doing. People are trying to call a thing a thing, and are getting push back saying “You can’t call this thing that thing”.

You are doing the thing people are accusing you of; you are apologizing for genocide, not resisting it.

Look at the response in context of Feddit. Its not a critique of you, per se, its a critique of the German law/ idealogical approach. Lets suggest, in your words, a full “national socialist” genocide is at least possible in this day and age. The world did no know the full extent of Germany’s action until well into the process.

If we rely on the logic of the German approach, we wouldn’t be able to call the thing a thing until its too late. The point being made is that if you wait long enough to be able to a full historical analysis, you’ve effectively become an apologist for genocide on the basis of a lack of evidence.

And I would argue that Israels actions over the previous 80 years are extremely comparable to what the National Socialists did in Germany, and in some ways, even more disgusting. Germany ran concentration camps for around 12 years. Israel has been running them for almost 80. Germany treated it as a war of extermination. Israel is running it as a war of extermination. What other than a death camp would you call Israelli detention facilities?

The only difference is that we have the opportunity to stop Israel in its tracks, now, as its becomes clear the Israelies are not going to stop until the entire Palestinian population is eliminated. Disallowing or diminishing comparisons between the most famous historical genocide and the ongoing Israeli genocide in Palestine supports genocide

those people are people living in their home country have to obey local laws.

You have a moral responsibility to disobey moral injustices, even when, actually, especially when they are codified into law. If you rely on the German standard you have no functional mechanism to communicate that a genocide as as bad as the Holocaust is occurring. Which is obviously ridiculous, and you should disobey that law.

If you rely on the German standard, you’d never be able to call a genocide a genocide until its fully executed.

Which obviously supports those committing the genocide.

Notice how the criticisms are based on a fundamental lie: that feddit.org is a zionist instance.

Well, I think this is where the “Nazi Bar” metaphor comes into play. I think its defensible for db0 to clearly say, and they had a debate, provided evidence, etc…, that feddit.org clearly has a Zionist problem. We could argue with their process, evidence etc… but we can’t disagree that they did have a process, provided evidence, etc…

Calling for death to nations (and their civilians) is a call for genocide. I hope non-extremists can see that.

I mean isn’t that the point? Feddit is turning a blind eye to this when it comes from a specific, narrow ideological group. The argument being made is that Feddit is either defending or turning a blind eye to one specific group of people who are ideological advocates for genocide because they do it on behalf of Israel.

And to be clear and I’ve said this elsewhere. I don’t think you leave a Nazi (in this metaphor, Zionists) bar to the Nazis. If you find out that a group of Nazi’s walked into the bar you are in, you collect your group of friends at your table, and you walk over and start a fight. Don’t give them an inch.

I think the argument here is that if you don’t want to be known as a instance supporting genocide and fascism, you have some work to do.

Roe Jogan

Hydrogen buildup?

Then get banned dude. But don’t let them persist in a vacuum.

• gestures vaguely at an entire western world that is effectively pro Zionist*

I don’t block anyone.