I have no idea what the fuck @curiosaurus@discuss.online is talking about.
Smug, self-serving, self-congratulatory, “it’s the internet, therefore caring about anything or expecting any conduct standards is stupid” thought terminating cliches. That shit got tired decades ago and it’s still vile now.
You were arguing with such an incredibly misanthropic piece of shit that of course they see a sufficient number of TI-88s bolted together as direct analogues to self-aware and conscious human intelligence.
Look at how that piece of shit treats other human beings: like the inferior “meat computers” that such a techbro mindset provides.
https://hexbear.net/comment/5438712
I already said my part in the other reply I just gave and it also answers most of this post.
I will emphasize my first post in this thread: yes, LLMs are tools, and tools can be useful. I’d rather not give any inevitabilist arguments to the tool as if it requires special laissez-faire privileges that we don’t grant to, say, internal combustion engines or nuclear power.
If it wasn’t LLMs then it would just be something else.
Again, I’m not down with inevitabilism arguments. May as well say the Joad’s house was going to get torn down somehow too.
If one believes nothing can or even should be done about destructive excesses of capitalism, where’s the leftism part even begin?
There’s nothing uniquely bad about AI
There actually is considering the jobs and consequent material conditions affected by it that were otherwise unaffected before its use. Just saying it’s all the same sounds like downright drilposting.
The thing we need to be focusing on is how we structure our society to ensure that we’re not using technology in ways that’s harmful to us.
No shit. Same deal with CFCs, high fructose corn syrup, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, and leaded gasoline. Saying “do nothing, it’s inevitable and no different than anything before and it can’t be helped” yet also “restructure society” is downright paradoxical to me here.
One more thing: you may want to look at the numbers for just how vastly extensive and wasteful current “AI” usage is among tech companies and how much more they intend to expand its use, whether people ask for it or not, pretty much everywhere.
If you haven’t heard of the Jevons Paradox, it also helps explain why increasingly efficient gasoline engines haven’t actually reduced overall carbon waste because more and more of those more efficient gasoline engines were used all the while.
In this case, I think we are going to see such improvements because there’s a direct benefit to companies operating LLMs to save costs.
I’m not so sure, not when a lot of venture capital money often rides on grandiose promises to dazzle investors (including vague promises of nuclear fusion payback from a startup in four years in Microsoft’s case)
There’s no putting toothpaste back in the tube at this point.
Considering the already present socioeconomic consequences of this unregulated technology, from career/reputation threatening deepfaking to further working class precarity, saying “nothing can be done” in response to such harm sounds like tech inevitabilism to me. Should the same be argued about the worsening surveillance state (which is also being boosted with this technology)? Would it have been worthwhile to say nothing could be done about, say, CFCs, high fructose corn syrup, partially hydrogenated soybean oil, or leaded gasoline? Saying “this product is doing bad things but oh well it’s already invented” is tiresome fatalism to me.
Lots of efficiency improvements are possible for lots of tools but they often don’t happen on a sufficiently large scale because of capitalism. It’s why we have “just another lane, bro” stroads instead of viable mass transit across most of Burgerland, for example.
I highly doubt bazinga-Americans, from ruling class billionaires to their stans and glazers, are that interested in efficiency when they feverishly demand ascended techno-gods to emerge from sufficiently large treat printer databases. One such glazer is even in this thread, right now.
I should have expected this outcome in this thread:
The treat printers are tools. Tools can be useful.
Tools can also be horrid when wielded (or stanned) by tools.
Keep in mind the staggering energy costs and carbon waste involved with the widespread use of this tool. When tools expect, even demand the tool to be used everywhere at an increasing rate, they’re being especially horrid tools.
They say “history is bunk” because they don’t want to look into history first. That’d take time out of their very busy day of coming up with “new” ideas.
In my experience, a bazinga device like this, if it’s anywhere that’s not directly guarded at all times, will be broken in, oh, a month or less.
Apparently the origins of standardized testing are surprisingly dark even for what it is: in the leadup to WW1, they wanted a way to separate the brains in the bunkers from the bodies in the trench.
Later versions of standarized testing, the ones conjured up by undead creatures like Bill “The Good One” Gates, were intended to be failed as a justification for privatizing more schools and selling more standardized testing.
something original
OH ITS ORIGINAL FOR TECHBROS TO SELL MORE SURVEILLANCE 
I haven’t owned a TV since they became “smart.” I hated the idea then and I hate it now.
Another Torment Nexus that is already well underway. 
is not a plot device
Unfortunately, for him, it totally was and continued to be.
Corpo media has an entire subgenre of itself that could be called “ACTUALLY.”