I’m waiting for the notes on that meeting and how it affects Belgium’s position because from what I see here our MPs have approved only a temporary regime until April ‘26 with limitations until and actual set of rules is voted.

I am indeed. I also never partook into this sort of approach, not being the « right kind » for this.

I suspect you assume that I was « supporting » or otherwise lounging for this ? That’s not the case just to be clear.

But it was happening, a lot, and I feel it is interesting to remember it to better appreciate how it is now.

You assume so much about me that is actually very sad.

As for how to converse with strangers you could go in a bar and raw start conversations…

Same same really. And the lighter was one of the least obnoxious trick really.

Can’t help with the personality though, that’s just who I am. Feel free to click on « block » if it hurts.

Nhaaaaa when going to bars or youth places was still a thing it was exactly like that… you went out with them to smoke, asked / give some lighter and voila. We had to rely on so many tricks when tinder was not a thing I suspect you don’t realise yourself :-)

Haaaaa the new generations… ya know once upon a times this was standard procedure right? Not so long ago even. Sometimes you didn’t even talk before furiously kissing someone on the dance floor and discussions came waaaaaay later on if they ever came.

How nice to ask kids who cannot consent to share pictures with that company…

Siems and such systems are designed for that. Could be part of SOC or CSIRT. Generally all large companies have that. It’s also getting more accessible to smaller structures in the form of « as a service ». A data leak is a data leak whatever the vector so shit needs to be detected & acted upon. It’s all fun & fair games when about Intel secrets it seems but what when a dickhead steals medical data or other perso stuff ?

And what I shared was based on my personal involvement on the topic. As I said somewhere in the thread my expertise is limited to one country in Europe so the legal framework is vastly different but the more human and technological considerations are likely very transferable. And indeed there are criteria for warrants but that would be subject to interpretation at all steps plus not everything goes via warrants. Judge being lenient isn’t also accounting for their own metrics and perspectives. And additionally a whole lot of my personal issues would be related to how data, even when acquired both legitimately and with some regard for ethics, is handled. And that needs to be addressed by police forces and their providers.

But then you need to trust another party which is just moving the problem along…

Ah no I was assuming we need privacy for everyone… but this would work as well. When working in responsible disclosure this is very much a problem. You want those channels open as wide as possible and as easy as possible.

And to a large extent I suspect boomers were a bit more into systems and protocols than the new gens.

But keep on…

You should consider reviewing your baseline to integrate actual persons. Some need help to use WhatsApp so go figure how they would fare with most of those.

Users don’t need to configure email that’s kind of the point… and the receiving side of most of your techs still had to eventually setup the server side right? Adminforge is Linux tutorials, hardly something for the basic user. And disroot has not the best reputation if I can trust the few top links in my search results due to its gtc where they mentioned that they would collaborate in criminal investigations as well.

That’s definitively not how they work in Europe and even though I’m not expert in other regions I assume that it’s absolutely not the case in USA either. Technologically there’s no solutions fully preserving everyone’s privacy hence the importance of the local culture. But if the current practices improve with the likes of the controls I mentioned I would say that it would be good enough.

Damn. They didn’t seem so wild especially compared to the flow of yours. All mediums / techs you listed are complex technologies that take efforts to setup. Compared to the ubiquitousness of email. How do you propose to make that as available to the baseline human being?

Aren’t most of those requiring dedicated setup? How does that work without a pre-existing communication channel such as email to prep for them? You walk to every party you need to integrate?

At the very least have controls in place ensuring disposal of data when court cases are fully processed to the full extent of appeals possibilities. Not allowing broad requests such as « everyone that connected to a given antenna for a month » or even « all connections toward NET or ASN whatever ». Additionally have the data fully isolated, removing all possibilities to cross use data initially granted for a purpose. I could go on for a while… It’s all a balance though, sometimes reuse leads to solving unrelated cases but it’s bound to the imperfections of local authorities everywhere one’s data can be requested.

I’d be curious to see where that links to create a new account takes you to… probably toward htt//youdumbfuck.lol

Maybe with symmetric fiber and if the electricity prices lower I’ll go back to that. Before the advent of convenient and cheap providers we had ou webservers, irc servers and some game servers at home… but the cost of that and the additional maintenance nightmare makes that less desirable than having OVH doing it all for me…

Shitty managers are already breathing down your neck though, they didn’t exactly wait for this piece to be major annoyances….

Ha yup, the whole ss7 network is the most funky shit we have in terms of telco privacy risks. And it doesn’t take a whole lot to be relatively legitimately part of it. Scary shit.