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That sucks. As one of the workarounds I have vertical taskbar and tabs. Our screens have more horizontal space than we usually need.

Cube*.
Triangular prism*.

I also thought about Chao Garden but from Sonic Adventure 1

I’m aware of some DOS games that did it. For example 1989 Prince of Persia had you enter the exact character (page, line, word) from the manual.

On PS1 you’d probably never complete Metal Gear Solid (1998), cause you need to call somebody on the codec, but the frequency was on the box cover.

They are right, it was used for that. Sometimes some key information for progress would be in the manual or on the box. Luckily it wasn’t super popular on consoles, due to the notion that it wasn’t as easy to pirate on consoles as it was on home computers, where you could just copy the floppy/CD.

I’m not sure I understand. What point?

Yeah, that was the case early on. But because of that problem we were very incentivized to learn English. Which we did pretty fast.

Psh. As a kid in a post-soviet country I hadn’t seen a game manual up until PS3 days. Every single cartridge and disc sold there was just that. Best case scenario in a flimsy plastic case that would disintegrate in a couple of years. Had to rawdog the shit out of those games. Pure trial and error and perseverance.
Stuck? Try every possible button combination in every location that makes any sense.

For example, couldn’t finish Tiny Toon Adventures: Buster’s Hidden Treasure on Mega Drive (Genesis) because I didn’t know you can jump off walls. Finished it earlier this year though 🙃

Not to brag, but my brother and I passed the garage test mission in Driver (PS1) as kids. Now that I think about it, I should put it on my resume.

I once had a laptop with (I think) Swedish kb (that I bought during my studies in Latvia), but it wasn’t this loaded. Judging by the comments, this seems to be a mixed Scandinavian kb layout, for multiple languages.

Somebody is going to comment that it’s the loss button any minute now.

The key to the right of Å is you looking at this keyboard.

But “new” in the context of shopping just means “not used”, not that it was released in the past year or two.

And as I mentioned in another reply, they are not advertising anything false if those components are actually unused. If the buyer expects some band new, recently released machine with those specs, it’s on them. When you’re buying electronics, some minimal amount of research is required, or you outsource it to your family/friends.

Of course it’s not new new, the CPU is 10 years old. But who would think that it is?

Ok, I think I now understand the point of this thread. The implication is that some people might assume that these are brand new machines that will have software support for years to come. Even though, that’s confusing to me, as no new machine with those specs costs only 200 Euros. Like, that CPU alone, if used, cost 40-60 Euros. But IMO it’s still a stretch to call this a scam, as they are selling what they are selling. Can these machines run W11 right now? Yes. If the buyer expects something else for that price, it’s on them. The target audience could still be tech-savvy ppl who just need an older machine for simple stuff and W11 is pre-installed there just for convenience.

What does it matter that Microsoft considers it piracy? If they got the keys for cheap somewhere, it’s a real licensed version anyway and will work fine.
I can order retro emulation handhelds from China and it will arrive with 1000s of ROMs, which is literal piracy, but that doesn’t make it a scam.

Not officially, but I have, in the past, installed W11 on a computer from 2010. And it worked fine, all things considered.

But are you certain they aren’t new and this is a scam? I’m interested to know how you determined those are used.

Btw, where does it say “Nuovo”? I can’t find it. Is it not on the screenshot?

But “e-waste” means something so outadet that it’s useless. Or unrepairable. Those computers are perfectly fine for 80% of users.

And are they explicitly saying that these are new? While you know for sure it’s heavily used equipment?

Do you mean you wouldn’t consider it a scam if it has W10 preinstalled instead? How much is MS Office anyway? I know there are $5 W11 keys all over the place.

That seems like an entirely different problem from the one being discussed.