“Most” music is also under a compulsory licensing system, while virtually no code, prose, or visual art is.

death of copyright could be an actual [g]ood thing

It could. It would assuredly be a boon to the development of de-build chains: decompilers and the like.

But, as long as Disney and Amazon get protections, I’m going to advocate for the protection of works by independent artists and coders, particularly CC-SA, GPL, or AGPL licensed works. This does mean resisting LLMs (and other generative AI) on copyright grounds. (Even if on the other hand I might advocate for the undoing of copyrights generally.)

And, even if that class of issue were settled, I also agree the current state of generative AI is a travesty to be resisted on ecological and labor terms. As just one example of ecological harm, MS undid years of sustainability work in service to Copilot. As one example of harming Workers, Amnesty International has identified human rights abuses in the training of several model brands.

Thank you for the link! It does look like Apertus itself might be Free Software (the U.S. copyright office says training can infringe, but is usually fair use), but it can still output derivative works of copyrighted inputs that might prevent them from being distributed as-is (for example, requiring attribution) – at all, much less under a strong copyleft.

IBM Granite (EDIT: and Apertus) do disclose all their training data and claim that all their training data is effectively free of copyright (highly permissively licensed). I have not been able to verify that, due to my lack of skills with the conventions and tools of LLM / Agent training and publishing.

So, yeah, probably (EDIT: two one).

I don’t disagree that it is a risk, and I am trying to move toward projects that do have err on the side of avoiding that risk. I have NetBSD on my laptop, and when I get a little more comfortable with it, I intend to convert the other Linux installations I maintain.

BUT, I believe the BSDs already went through a situation where some of their source was possibly under restrictive copyright and rather than “rolling back”, they “simply” identified the possibly infringing code and re-wrote those sections to have the same function (which can’t be copyrighted) without sharing any creative expression (which is). So, even the projects that are taking the risk that an LLM (or other generative AI) generates infringing code might not have quite as much cleanup / lost effort as you describe.

Also, LLM out isn’t automatically a derivative work of the training data. I’d have to dig through some other messages to find an exact quote from their documents, but I believe they (EDIT: the U.S. copyright office) said only output that is “significantly similar” to training data is potentially infringing. That does further limit the risk.

I still think it’s too high of a risk because well-meaning contributors might incorrectly introduce infringing code, since for models that don’t disclose their training data (Claude, Copilot, Gemini, etc.) even dedicated contributors don’t have the information they need to discover the output is infringing. In that past, that result (introducing infringing code) was generally limited to the acts of malicious actors that are submitting code they know to be infringing to poison a project and open it to legal action.

But, I can’t ask that someone (i.e. a project maintainer) substitute my risk/reward judgement for theirs, and I have no experience maintaining a large project. All of my code contributions are to either projects others maintain, or my own hobby projects that I doubt have any users other than myself (and I don’t even use all the published/available ones anymore).

!ThatHappened@your.instance

It’s like the One Piece character’s name, “Luffy” but without the “L”.

“uffy”.

/s, I just spell it out.

I ordered CORBA, not a cobra!

Reminds me of the dinner party with Storm and the glances from the protag’s wife.

I’m personally trying to switch to NetBSD. But, it’s not going well. My laptop can’t right-click in X under NetBSD, e.g.

A lot of the ecosystems I used to enjoy and support, I simply can’t anymore. Firefox, Linux, GHC, Debian, KDE, etc., etc. It’s a distressing time for me.

Poe’s Law

When riding the line, best to add a satire/sarcasm indicator (/s) after the laugh line.

It would be a kinder world if ignorance wasn’t exploited / punished.

But, yeah. It’s not like malware in movies was the first time that ignorance would be very much the opposite of bliss. Plenty of berries that will give you a bad time if you ignorantly eat them; and some plants (and animals) even use mimicry take advantage of the lack of observation or knowledge.

“deserve” might not be the way I’d put it, but you execute enough movies and bad things will happen to you.

For some reason this reminded me of U-nicycle.

IIRC, the alcohol makes you “feel warm” by dialating blood vessels near the skin. But, that improves heat transfer, so your core temp actually drops faster.

I like the Hobbes and Bacon approach to continuity, but there’s only a few of them. Bacon was a lot like child Calvin, but not exactly.

Usually it is made from a powder instead of a concentrate, it does doesn’t match https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cordial#Noun exactly.

But, yes, it is a non-carbonated soft drink, almost always fruit flavored.

Last time I read the Wikipedia article, both Kool-Aid and Flavor-Aid were found on-site during the post-event cleanup.

But also, a lot of people used (and still use) “coolaid” as a generic name for non-carbonate flavored and sweetened water, they aren’t meaning the Kool-Aid product line specifically.

Yeah, while the individual 8 tones are the same. Once you start chording, A minor still sounds different from C major. On the grasping hand, there are some chords that are effectively shared so a complex piece can “disguise” one as the other.

My improvisations on a keyboard are always somewhere between A minor and C minor. I only use the 2 minor keys in between for key changes.

Yeah, I’ve always used the “nybble” spelling for data instead of tooth activity. But, also I think more people just use “hex digit”.