For beginners KDE is much more familiar, and is generally the better pick regardless. I’m not saying this is the best choice for everyone, but it’s the best choice when you don’t know anything.

Flatpak in infinitely easier for people who don’t know what they’re doing, because it’s sandboxed and separate from the native system. If you know what you’re doing it’s different though, I don’t use them personally.

Flatpak in infinitely easier for people who don’t know what they’re doing, because it’s sandboxed and separate from the native system. If you know what you’re doing it’s different though, I don’t use them personally.

Be preinstalled on laptops/desktops.

everything else is ready unless you use niche software. Most people just use a browser and word or a pdf editor.

note the distro MUST be an immutable up to date kde flatpak using one for normal people, however

And ontop of that, they have no incentive to work on performance, if they made it better you’d have less of a reason to upgrade your machine, they want to slowly make performance worse and worse to maximize this effect

You think kde looks like this?

i completely disagree

They probably do want their devices to last longer and be easier to fix. I think it’s crazy to suggest otherwise. They probably do not know that they can improve this situation.

hence me saying it’s an education issue.

I’ve heard countless people complain about planned obsolescensce related issues, they just think they are unsolvable. I think you may be out of touch.

Chime is significantly better than my credit union in every way, in my experience

You’re right that they don’t, but they should at least care about long-term support and repairability, and maybe they would with a little education.

Honestly, I don’t see what you’re saying.

What looks wrong with it exactly?

also I just type what I want in the search and just hit enter tbh and so do most linux users so I can’t imagine caring much. The people who do care would probably like the older experience.

What exactly feels back in time about a modern kde desktop for you?

Not if they care about typing, repairability, or long term support though

For the vast majority of usecases it is ready, niche applications sure, but most people could use linux these days.

I do free infinite troubleshooting on matrix and specialize in this exact situation, feel free to message me. I recommend something based on immutable fedora because it’s breakage resistant (immutable means the core system is read only and updates all at once on reboot) and fedora because it’s very up to date but still stable, try aurora (it’s fedora immutable with some small improvements)

do kde, always kde or gnome unless you know what you’re doing, but kde is better

Usually that is a oom situation in my experience, check out earlyoom

That the worst linux distro would be vastly better than windows (not that mint is the worst, that’d be manjaro)

honestly it isn’t much to learn but the returns are very diminished if you’re already on a linux distro, I mostly make this recommendation if you’re just starting out, if you’re perfectly happy there isn’t much need to switch, but more up to date software, kde over cinnamon, and immutability are huge advantages for many people.

like, just for an idea of why kde is better for beginners, the kde text editor alone gets more code changes than all of cinnamon combined per month, and by a lot. Kde is always rapidly improving.

basically on aurora you just use discover for all software and updates and don’t even need the cli, it’s pretty easy to learn honestly, and if something goes wrong that a simple google can’t fix feel free to message me I do free infinite linux troubleshooting.

here’s a copypasted post I made on mint and beginners "A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.

I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.

The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).

How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.

Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.

Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.

I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix."

I have 15 years of experience and do free infinite troubleshooting on matrix, feel free to add me. I recommend you go with aurora, because it is immutable, kde based, and well documented.

immutable means the base system is read only and updates are applied ontop of it, meaning you can easily roll back an update that went bad, and the apps are separate from the core operating system and thus can never break them (unless you try really hard).

kde is a desktop environment, it is most similar to windows and the rate of development dwarfs almost everything else, please whatever you do for your first system use kde.

aurora is a slightly modified fedora and fedora is one of the most commonly used options, the reason not to use base fedora is that aurora includes some QoL features, for example because of issues with patents twitch doesn’t work on fedora but does on aurora.

You probably could with a phone

It’s even a work pc, there’s a thread on the microsoft forums detailing how common the problem is.

I have had to use windows for like the last two weeks and the taskbar crashes and freezes constantly so I put a bat file on my desktop that kills and reopens explorer.exe also if my bluetooth headphones disconnect while my mic is muted it refuses to unmute… I have to reboot. This is what people say is a “it just works” experience.